The Pitch trying to call out Chiefs as being racists

[Rain Man]

AFC West

Broncos - Technically, this is a gender-neutral name, though it's Spanish origins make it seem male with the 'o' sound. I'm concerned about perceptions. Also, broncos are a sub-type of horse, which makes it non-inclusive. I'm going to have to veto it. We could go with Horses, but Indianapolis already got that. So Denver needs a total makeover. I think it's pretty obvious that it should be mountain related or altitude related. You could throw a white helmet on them and call them the Snowcaps, but that's too white. I'd go with the Peaks.

Chiefs - Technically, this should be good. Chief is a profession that is unrelated to race, and I think to gender. (Is there a feminine version of 'chief'?) But the team has embraced a profession within an ethnicity with its Native American emphasis, so it no longer can stand. You could go with an Oregon Trail theme here and go with Trailers, but that's probably not a great brand image. I don't know if ermines are native to the area or not. I think it's clear that the most famous thing about Kansas City is barbecue, so we'll go with Saucers. You can give it an alien theme if you like.

Chargers - First off, no one knows what a charger is, other than that thing that powers up your phone. The name was a failure from the start. Let's embrace what really makes Los Angeles famous, and what people do there instead of going to pro football games. The Surfers.

Raiders - Pro-crime name, and one can argue that their logo exploits people with facial disfigurements. The name's gotta go. We can't go with their historical runner up of Senors for obvious reasons. Now that they're in Las Vegas, it's time for a complete makeover. What is Las Vegas known for? Hookers, elderly gamblers, Buddy Hackett, buffet meals, runaways who are destined to become hookers - what do we have to work with? We can't go with gamblers since that glorifies vice. Showgirls is fun, but too gender specific. I have to go with the most noticeable thing about Las Vegas - the Lights.

So the AFC West is ...

Denver Peaks
Kansas City Saucers
Los Angeles Surfers
Las Vegas Lights

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

(Is there a feminine version of 'chief'?)

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Where the **** is that bitch Carmen Sandiego

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Where the **** is that bitch Carmen Sandiego

Excellent query, Gumshoe!!!

[ChiefsFanatic]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

AFC West

Broncos - Technically, this is a gender-neutral name, though it's Spanish origins make it seem male with the 'o' sound. I'm concerned about perceptions. Also, broncos are a sub-type of horse, which makes it non-inclusive. I'm going to have to veto it. We could go with Horses, but Indianapolis already got that. So Denver needs a total makeover. I think it's pretty obvious that it should be mountain related or altitude related. You could throw a white helmet on them and call them the Snowcaps, but that's too white. I'd go with the Peaks.

Chiefs - Technically, this should be good. Chief is a profession that is unrelated to race, and I think to gender. (Is there a feminine version of 'chief'?) But the team has embraced a profession within an ethnicity with its Native American emphasis, so it no longer can stand. You could go with an Oregon Trail theme here and go with Trailers, but that's probably not a great brand image. I don't know if ermines are native to the area or not. I think it's clear that the most famous thing about Kansas City is barbecue, so we'll go with Saucers. You can give it an alien theme if you like.

Chargers - First off, no one knows what a charger is, other than that thing that powers up your phone. The name was a failure from the start. Let's embrace what really makes Los Angeles famous, and what people do there instead of going to pro football games. The Surfers.

Raiders - Pro-crime name, and one can argue that their logo exploits people with facial disfigurements. The name's gotta go. We can't go with their historical runner up of Senors for obvious reasons. Now that they're in Las Vegas, it's time for a complete makeover. What is Las Vegas known for? Hookers, elderly gamblers, Buddy Hackett, buffet meals, runaways who are destined to become hookers - what do we have to work with? We can't go with gamblers since that glorifies vice. Showgirls is fun, but too gender specific. I have to go with the most noticeable thing about Las Vegas - the Lights.

So the AFC West is ...

Denver Peaks
Kansas City Saucers
Los Angeles Surfers
Las Vegas Lights

I think if we were going to rename our team based on the city and bbq, we could be the Kansas City Barbecue, and the logo could be the letter Q with the KC inside of the Q.

As for the Raiders, you mentioned strippers, the kind that take their clothes off in rhythm to bad music, and you settled on the Lights. But, I propose that the lights you are referring to come mostly from the famous Las Vegas Strip, so, the Las Vegas Strippers would be perfectly acceptable name for the Raiders. Or, they could be the Las Vegas Nomads, because I believe that franchise has now called (or will once they have a game in Vegas) more cities home than any other NFL team history.

I also thought that maybe the Broncos could become the Denver Mile High, because their stadium is a mile higher than sea level, and their fans are also high, from all the legal weed.

Just my thoughts.

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[Jewish Rabbi]

Why not the Kansas City Anal Rapers? Everyone can be anally raped, and Patrick Mahomes does that to opposing defenses on the regular.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

Why not the Kansas City Anal Rapers? Everyone can be anally raped, and Patrick Mahomes does that to opposing defenses on the regular.

It's an interesting concept, but I think it would be too confusing relative to the east and west coast teams.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

If they would cave they'd be the Kansas City Kucks

[displacedinMN]

Would still be able to get Chiefs Merchandise?

A little more than two-and-a-half years have passed since then-president Robert Kelley announced that the University of North Dakota would make its athletic programs’ nickname the Fighting Hawks, with the majority vote-getter replacing the Fighting Sioux. The outgoing moniker had been in use for roughly 16 years, with the school having altered that from “The Sioux,” a simpler yet nonetheless controversy-causing choice that it had adopted back in 1930. An email spat between current leader Mark Kennedy and the trustee of a foundation that has endowed the university with millions marks yet another chapter in the acceptance, or lack thereof, of the new nickname and logo.

But the real story is the bizarre set of circumstances that has forced the University of North Dakota to keep selling some merchandise bearing the old Fighting Sioux name and branding.

The latest matter in a saga that essentially started in 1999 pits Kennedy against the Engelstad Family Foundation, whose namesake played hockey for the university. More importantly, one could contend, his family’s name appears on the main sites for athletic competition on the Grand Forks campus, with his eponymous spot hosting hockey action and the Betty Engelstad Sioux Center serving as the source for basketball and volleyball duels.

The school president and trustee Kris Engelstad McGarry, Ralph’s daughter, are at odds over what branding should appear on the arena's center court, with Kennedy hoping for the Fighting Hawks logo to have the honor and the trustee favoring the standard University of North Dakota logo to receive the distinction. That would push the Fighting Hawks identifier to the side of the court, a move that Kennedy feels would not help to promote the new branding or move merchandise. McGarry, meanwhile, holds that the "UND" logo would keep at ease fans and supporters who “do not identify with Fighting Hawks" after the logo’s ill-received unveiling.


Her reasoning is interesting and could lead opponents of it to state that, yes, backers do not identify much with the Fighting Hawks image because they still think of, and perhaps admire, the Fighting Sioux insignia more. The second part of that possibility received a bit of credence through an Associated Press report on the spat between Kennedy and McGarry, noting that hockey game attendees still chant “Let’s go Sioux” from the stands.

That navigation between two branding worlds, one would think, figures to become easier as fans become more accustomed to the Fighting Hawks identification. But those who hold dear to the Fighting Sioux moniker need not necessarily become that accepting of the new term, based on a head-scratching decision by the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA).


The governing body for more than 1,200 institutions and affiliated conferences played a huge role in the genesis of the present flap, as it threatened to place sanctions on the University of North Dakota in 2005 if officials did not decide to abandon what was deemed a "culturally insensitive" athletic nickname. Seven years later, residents voted to drop the Fighting Sioux as the program’s signifier, but the NCAA stipulated that the school must continue to make use of the Fighting Sioux brand so as not to lose the trademark. Yes, you read that right. The school, scolded for calling on the controversial nickname, must keep it alive, which it does through its Dacotah Legacy Collection.

“UND is in such a horrible position because of this agreement,” radio host and Fargo-Moorhead Forum columnist Mike McFeely said in a 2016 VICE article on the mandatory measure. “There’s really nothing else they can do.”

Two years after he offered his estimation, five Fighting Sioux products remain available as reminders, one might say, of the NCAA’s lackluster handling of everything. This has been an interesting year for analyzing the lifetime of controversial nicknames and logos, as the Cleveland Indians, who will abandon their Chief Wahoo logo beginning next season, will still market goods with the caricature on them in Northeast Ohio and Goodyear, Ariz., the team’s spring training site.

Sports teams, both professional and amateur, are now more than ever finding themselves needing to address their logo and nickname choices with respect to Native Americans. With the Indians and Fighting Hawks/Fighting Sioux as recent high-profile cases, we wonder if those who favor the complete eradication of such appropriations will one day be able to celebrate a complete victory. Given the scope of copyright and trademark rulings and the money that people can make off goods, no matter how insensitive or out of touch they are, though, they might have to continue to settle for partial wins.

[Rain Man]

"Fighting Hawks". What a horrible name. No wonder it can't get any traction. If they had gone with Ermines they'd be seeing sold-out crowds at every sporting event, and people all over the country would be wearing Ermine gear.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

"Fighting Hawks". What a horrible name. No wonder it can't get any traction. If they had gone with Ermines they'd be seeing sold-out crowds at every sporting event, and people all over the country would be wearing Ermine gear.

Isn't an ermine basically a weasel or something?

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Isn't an ermine basically a weasel or something?

An ermine is the most elegant, adorable, and merciless killing machine on the planet. And yeah, it's kind of a weasel.

[Hammock Parties]

Packers - Treading dangerously close to the LGBTQ line

[Hammock Parties]

Loved that breakdown Rain Man.

Tomorrow I think I'll flip it on it's head and come up the MOST offensive NFL nicknames I can think of.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Loved that breakdown Rain Man.

Tomorrow I think I'll flip it on it's head and come up the MOST offensive NFL nicknames I can think of.

About halfway through.

Did you guys known the Cotton Gin was invented in Atlanta?