Michael Jordan's Flu Game

[Spott]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

Yeah, super disingenuous, for multiple reasons.

One being that we all know why Toni made the NBA Hall of Fame. It wasn’t for his on the court NBA success. Two: Jordan (and Pippen, for that matter) never wanted Toni there. He was Krause’s boy. There was a big rift over that at one point.

Player whose name I won’t mention anymore in this thread openly lobbied for the Cavs GM to go and get Love and bring him there. Love was already an established borderline NBA star (was NBA All-Second Team in 2014 with Timberwolves) and was a known commodity, unlike Kukoc who had never played an NBA game when he joined the Bulls. And, again, wasn’t even wanted on the team by Jordan.

I had no idea that they put Kukoc in the HOF. He wasn’t even a starter for the Bulls when they won their last three championships. He was a good scorer at times but generally a liability on defense, and most definitely not HOF worthy.

[Chieftain]

I watched every single game the Bulls played the Jazz in the finals in back to back playoff seasons. That Jazz team was historically great. Not just because of Stockton and Malone but they had great players surrounding them like Hornacek, Russell, Ostertag and were so well coached. That Jazz team could beat the Warriors team with KD and that's not an exageration.
Jordan won both series almost singlehandedly. I can never see LeBron beat those Jazz teams. I just can't.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Chieftain

I watched every single game the Bulls played the Jazz in the finals in back to back playoff seasons. That Jazz team was historically great. Not just because of Stockton and Malone but they had great players surrounding them like Hornacek, Russell, Ostertag and were so well coached. That Jazz team could beat the Warriors team with KD and that's not an exageration.
Jordan won both series almost singlehandedly. I can never see LeBron beat those Jazz teams. I just can't.

The mid 90s Jazz are now somehow better than a 73 win team that added a top 10 player in history to it in this warped reality.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

The mid 90s Jazz are now somehow better than a 73 win team that added a top 10 player in history to it in this warped reality.

[Ignores the fact that the Cavs lost 3 out of 4 times to this team in the Finals and the only series won was due to a key injury for said Warriors that allowed Cavs comeback and the ‘greatest championship ever’ ]

[lcarus]

Originally Posted by Chieftain

I watched every single game the Bulls played the Jazz in the finals in back to back playoff seasons. That Jazz team was historically great. Not just because of Stockton and Malone but they had great players surrounding them like Hornacek, Russell, Ostertag and were so well coached. That Jazz team could beat the Warriors team with KD and that's not an exageration.
Jordan won both series almost singlehandedly. I can never see LeBron beat those Jazz teams. I just can't.

That really was a damn good Jazz team. Even back then I felt they were probably gonna beat the Bulls. If MJ didn't get that strip of Malone and then the game winning jumper in game 6 in Salt Lake, the Jazz damn well may have won that series.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by Chieftain

I watched every single game the Bulls played the Jazz in the finals in back to back playoff seasons. That Jazz team was historically great. Not just because of Stockton and Malone but they had great players surrounding them like Hornacek, Russell, Ostertag and were so well coached. That Jazz team could beat the Warriors team with KD and that's not an exageration.
Jordan won both series almost singlehandedly. I can never see LeBron beat those Jazz teams. I just can't.

Scottie Pippen wasn’t a slouch but Jordan did have an amazing ability to elevate his play and take over games when he had to. Another reason that lifetime stats don’t tell the whole story.

[BigCatDaddy]

TBT, you took way more time to shut down all his bs talking points then I do. It's just not worth debating and with so many more people putting Jordan ahead of LBJ public opinion will not change until people in my generation that watched both are dead and gone. KCC I'd Ahab chasing that white whale at all cost.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

TBT, you took way more time to shut down all his bs talking points then I do. It's just not worth debating and with so many more people putting Jordan ahead of LBJ public opinion will not change until people in my generation that watched both are dead and gone. KCC I'd Ahab chasing that white whale at all cost.

I find it much easier to just not give a shit.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

TBT, you took way more time to shut down all his bs talking points then I do. It's just not worth debating and with so many more people putting Jordan ahead of LBJ public opinion will not change until people in my generation that watched both are dead and gone. KCC I'd Ahab chasing that white whale at all cost.

Public opinion also thought Derek Jeter was better than Alex Rodriguez and continues to think Tom Brady was the best QB ever to play football.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Public opinion also thought Derek Jeter was better than Alex Rodriguez and continues to think Tom Brady was the best QB ever to play football.

1. For now, Tom Brady is the best QB to ever play football, even if he’s a bit overrated and given too much credit for his last 2 SB’s.

2. It’s not just public opinion. It’s also the media along with former and current players/coaches.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by staylor26

1. For now, Tom Brady is the best QB to ever play football, even if he’s a bit overrated and given too much credit for his last 2 SB’s.

A guy who was worse than Peyton Manning for the 1st half of his career and worse than Aaron Rodgers for the 2nd half of his career is not the best of all time at anything other than being overrated.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

A guy who was worse than Peyton Manning for the 1st half of his career and worse than Aaron Rodgers for the 2nd half of his career is not the best of all time at anything other than being overrated.

It’s hilarious that you value stats over winning.

I hate Brady, and do think he’s overrated, but he’s the GOAT for now. To argue otherwise is just ignorant.

[KC_Connection]

https://stathead.com/tiny/V4hH2

I wonder where Utah is on this list.

[CoMoChief]

I'm under the belief that Jordan was hungover.

Which IMO is more impressive.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I'm under the belief that Jordan was hungover.

Which IMO is more impressive.

Throw a no hitter on acid or **** off. Jordan. LOL Lebron is so much better. Was from the start.