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Old 10-20-2022, 07:12 AM   #1
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No, it can’t be. HTI or whatever his name is seems to think that our OL is ****ing awesome. The best news??? Mahomes hasn’t been injured in a while so he’s immune to injuries anymore. Heard it right here in this thread!! We’re golden now. May as well not even have an OL because I’ve been told within the last few posts that it hasn’t happened recently, so won’t happen again. We can go with bare bones OL from here on out!!


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Old 10-19-2022, 08:23 PM   #2
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Old 10-20-2022, 06:48 AM   #3
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Our biggest problem on offense: Offensive tackle play. I know everyone here hates Niang, but when healthy, he's better than Wylie, who blows goats. Maybe he gets back soon.

Our biggest problem on defense is two-fold: 1)extreme youth and 2)ineffective pass rush without blitzing. The young'uns will continue to improve. Perhaps Furious George puts it together. Perhaps Veach has an October surprise in mind for the DL.
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Old 10-20-2022, 06:53 AM   #4
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Our biggest problem on offense: Offensive tackle play. I know everyone here hates Niang, but when healthy, he's better than Wylie, who blows goats. Maybe he gets back soon.

Our biggest problem on defense is two-fold: 1)extreme youth and 2)ineffective pass rush without blitzing. The young'uns will continue to improve. Perhaps Furious George puts it together. Perhaps Veach has an October surprise in mind for the DL.
I can't believe they didn't resign Ingram. I mean, get it...Clark eats up all the Dline dollars...but **** did he solidify that edge...
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Old 10-20-2022, 07:22 AM   #5
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Our biggest problem on offense: Offensive tackle play. I know everyone here hates Niang, but when healthy, he's better than Wylie, who blows goats. Maybe he gets back soon.

Our biggest problem on defense is two-fold: 1)extreme youth and 2)ineffective pass rush without blitzing. The young'uns will continue to improve. Perhaps Furious George puts it together. Perhaps Veach has an October surprise in mind for the DL.
Or….and this could be a little controversial….we run the damn ball, especially against 3 man rushes.

What a concept! I can’t believe someone as smart as Andy Reid is so prideful to throw the ball all the time.

Get Clyde off the ****ing field and run Pacheco
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Old 10-20-2022, 07:24 AM   #6
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Or….and this could be a little controversial….we run the damn ball, especially against 3 man rushes.

What a concept! I can’t believe someone as smart as Andy Reid is so prideful to throw the ball all the time.

Get Clyde off the ****ing field and run Pacheco
The only RB that has shown any consistency is McKinnon.
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Old 10-20-2022, 07:28 AM   #7
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The only RB that has shown any consistency is McKinnon.
None of them have been consistent, to be honest. And that starts with Andy not running the ball enough.
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None of them have been consistent, to be honest. And that starts with Andy not running the ball enough.
Agree 100%, McKinnon has just shown more in his snaps than the other two.
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Or….and this could be a little controversial….we run the damn ball, especially against 3 man rushes.

What a concept! I can’t believe someone as smart as Andy Reid is so prideful to throw the ball all the time.

Get Clyde off the ****ing field and run Pacheco
Just no more Clyde stutter stepping and falling into the ass of Trey Smith for 2 yards.
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Old 10-20-2022, 07:54 AM   #10
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See...the thing with the running game is this: It takes patience.

CP sees a 2 yard run and says: FAIL! Don't take the ball out of Mahomes' hands!

But that's not even a fraction of the picture.

If you keep pounding, if you stay balanced between running and passing, those two yard runs become 4, 5, 10 yards. The pass rushers have to honor their run responsibilities first, which slows the pass rush. It opens up play-action in the passing game.

But it takes patience. It takes will.

Yes, we have Mahomes, yes, he's a generational talent, but it's still football. We have OT's that struggle with speed rushers. Best way to negate a speed rusher? Run right at 'em.
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See...the thing with the running game is this: It takes patience.

CP sees a 2 yard run and says: FAIL! Don't take the ball out of Mahomes' hands!

But that's not even a fraction of the picture.

If you keep pounding, if you stay balanced between running and passing, those two yard runs become 4, 5, 10 yards. The pass rushers have to honor their run responsibilities first, which slows the pass rush. It opens up play-action in the passing game.

But it takes patience. It takes will.

Yes, we have Mahomes, yes, he's a generational talent, but it's still football. We have OT's that struggle with speed rushers. Best way to negate a speed rusher? Run right at 'em.
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See...the thing with the running game is this: It takes patience.

CP sees a 2 yard run and says: FAIL! Don't take the ball out of Mahomes' hands!

But that's not even a fraction of the picture.

If you keep pounding, if you stay balanced between running and passing, those two yard runs become 4, 5, 10 yards. The pass rushers have to honor their run responsibilities first, which slows the pass rush. It opens up play-action in the passing game.

But it takes patience. It takes will.

Yes, we have Mahomes, yes, he's a generational talent, but it's still football. We have OT's that struggle with speed rushers. Best way to negate a speed rusher? Run right at 'em.
I have NO issue with us running the ball more - hell, I've called for it numerous times. The problem I have is with the who (is running the ball) and the with the what (plays we are running).
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I have NO issue with us running the ball more - hell, I've called for it numerous times. The problem I have is with the who (is running the ball) and the with the what (plays we are running).
If you lined McKinnon/Pacheo up next to Clyde out of a flat back pro set and ran actual ISOs, Power 26/O, treys, counters, draws, and dives, it would change everything.

This whole RPO version of a running game i.e. "oh shit, here they come - hot potato, hot potato!" bullshit needs to stop.
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I have NO issue with us running the ball more - hell, I've called for it numerous times. The problem I have is with the who (is running the ball) and the with the what (plays we are running).
Me too.
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Old 10-20-2022, 08:59 AM   #15
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See...the thing with the running game is this: It takes patience.

CP sees a 2 yard run and says: FAIL! Don't take the ball out of Mahomes' hands!

But that's not even a fraction of the picture.

If you keep pounding, if you stay balanced between running and passing, those two yard runs become 4, 5, 10 yards. The pass rushers have to honor their run responsibilities first, which slows the pass rush. It opens up play-action in the passing game.

But it takes patience. It takes will.

Yes, we have Mahomes, yes, he's a generational talent, but it's still football. We have OT's that struggle with speed rushers. Best way to negate a speed rusher? Run right at 'em.
I agree. They'll sometimes get a good run on first down and then pass on the next five consecutive plays. Reid has never been patient with the running game. Bienemy is a former RB yet he doesn't seem to mind either. They ran well against Tampa, which is supposed to have the best run defense in the league.
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