Science Conspiracy buffs? - Page 9

**Bowser** · 11-05-2009, 05:15 PM

The WTC 7 thing is a mystery. It went down hours after the towers did, and the owner took out a billion dollar insurance policy on that building in the days (weeks) preceeding 9/11.

As for the 9/11 conspiracy as a whole, good arguments can indeed be made for it, but as has been pointed up repeatedly, the sheer magnitude of an operation like that would be absolutely impossible to keep quiet.

gta0012 · 11-05-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

The WTC 7 thing is a mystery. It went down hours after the towers did, and the owner took out a billion dollar insurance policy on that building in the days (weeks) preceeding 9/11.

As for the 9/11 conspiracy as a whole, good arguments can indeed be made for it, but as has been pointed up repeatedly, the sheer magnitude of an operation like that would be absolutely impossible to keep quiet.

The only thing close to a conspiracy that I can believe is that we had prior knowledge of the plans for this attack and did nothing.

I remember vividly watching CNN or some news network a month or so before 9/11 and Interpol raised the flag on a potential terrorist attack happening soon.

I find it hard to believe we planned the whole thing. But I could see us turning our back knowing something was coming. Helped us get into wars that we wanted to begin with.

**rockymtnchief** · 11-05-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gta0012

The only thing close to a conspiracy that I can believe is that we had prior knowledge of the plans for this attack and did nothing.

I remember vividly watching CNN or some news network a month or so before 9/11 and Interpol raised the flag on a potential terrorist attack happening soon.

I find it hard to believe we planned the whole thing. But I could see us turning our back knowing something was coming. Helped us get into wars that we wanted to begin with.

I saw something similar. Only it implied that the government knew something was coming, but didn't know where exactly. I believe they were already trying to track down a couple of the hijackers, but they were too late.

No doubt though, they drug their feet. I don't think they realized it would be this huge.

gta0012 · 11-05-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rockymtnchief

I saw something similar. Only it implied that the government knew something was coming, but didn't know where exactly. I believe they were already trying to track down a couple of the hijackers, but they were too late.

No doubt though, they drug their feet. I don't think they realized it would be this huge.

Agreed. They were probably thinking hijacking of a plane 100 people that may die. I could see the gov't writing that off as an acceptable loss that would help us go to war.

They probably looked around after 9/11 like ohh ****

**rockymtnchief** · 11-05-2009, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

The WTC 7 thing is a mystery. It went down hours after the towers did, and the owner took out a billion dollar insurance policy on that building in the days (weeks) preceeding 9/11.

As for the 9/11 conspiracy as a whole, good arguments can indeed be made for it, but as has been pointed up repeatedly, the sheer magnitude of an operation like that would be absolutely impossible to keep quiet.

This.

Janitors, maintenance workers, etc... would've noticed, and later, voiced any kind of charges or unusual work done pre-911.

As far as insurance goes, you can bet that any saavy owner of any building of this magnitude reviews his insurance every year. It could just be coincidence that it was reviewed the week before and upped from 900 million to a billion. We don't know what it was insured for beforehand, but I'll bet it was close to a billion already.

As far as being built to withstand an aerial strike, I had read that it was built to withstand an AIRCRAFT strike similar to the one that hit the Empire State Building. Nowhere have I seen that it was built to withstand a large passenger jet strike. If someone has seen different, I stand corrected.

Finally, there are airline recordings and cell calls of the terrorists attack on board the planes while in flight. That should be enough to tell anyone we were attacked by terrorists.

**Bugeater** · 11-05-2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rockymtnchief

As far as being built to withstand an aerial strike, I had read that it was built to withstand an AIRCRAFT strike similar to the one that hit the Empire State Building. Nowhere have I seen that it was built to withstand a large passenger jet strike. If someone has seen different, I stand corrected.

Yes, it was built to withstand an aircraft strike, what it WASN'T built to withstand was the intense heat of the jet fuel burning. The heat weakened the trusses and once one floor collapsed, gravity took over and it was a chain reaction. And the reason the both the collapses were similar was because both buildings were designed the same way and were exposed to the same conditions leading to the same failures.

memyselfI · 11-05-2009, 05:23 PM

Me. I love a good conspiracy. I don't believe them all. Or most for that matter but I love hearing how the pieces could fit together for an alternative reality.

Pioli Zombie · 11-06-2009, 12:38 AM

Aliens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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CH13FS · 11-06-2009, 12:46 AM

Obviously no one here watches star trek, it's called WARP 9 PEOPLE

Pioli Zombie · 11-06-2009, 12:48 AM

I think Josh Peck is the Anti-Christ.
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Megbert · 11-06-2009, 01:12 AM

"Bob" Dobbs · 11-06-2009, 09:23 AM

I misspoke. What I mean is there won't be MANY new laws of physics discovered, New applications of the OLD laws OTOH will be the driving force.

Pants · 11-06-2009, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SEKChiefsFan

I misspoke. What I mean is there won't be MANY new laws of physics discovered, New applications of the OLD laws OTOH will be the driving force.

I really don't know how someone can claim this, though.

kepp · 11-06-2009, 12:22 PM

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I really don't know how someone can claim this, though.

Oh, it can be claimed easily...just not proven.

Jenson71 · 11-06-2009, 12:48 PM

I'm not an astronomer. I'm not a scientist. I'm not a physical science major.

My point is, we don't know that everything around us is not an illusion. It could be. But there is no evidence to suggest it is. So it's unreasonable to suggest that it probably is. Because it probably isn't. Same thing with aliens coming here, or us being aliens to natives of another solar system. Why would you think or believe in aliens coming here? Why would you say the government knows about it but is hiding it?

It is unreasonable to think that aliens have come to earth. It is unreasonable to think that we will go to another solar system. Could we? Yes. It would take something we have no evidence of even remotely attaining. Could we be an illusion? Yes. But to prove this, it would take something we have no evidence of.

Most people who think aliens have come or can come think they have really fast spaceships and are pale with big heads.

Think of a spaceship going 200,000 mph through space and hitting a meteor. What would happen?

11-05-2009, 05:15 PM	#1
Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $-168384	The WTC 7 thing is a mystery. It went down hours after the towers did, and the owner took out a billion dollar insurance policy on that building in the days (weeks) preceeding 9/11. As for the 9/11 conspiracy as a whole, good arguments can indeed be made for it, but as has been pointed up repeatedly, the sheer magnitude of an operation like that would be absolutely impossible to keep quiet.
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11-05-2009, 05:23 PM	#7
memyselfI CHANGEd your mind yet???? Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Lunatics Anonymous Casino cash: $10005234	Me. I love a good conspiracy. I don't believe them all. Or most for that matter but I love hearing how the pieces could fit together for an alternative reality. __________________ Meet the new boss same as the old boss. BigChiefDave:"Anyone who thought we would only be in Iraq for a few years is either stoned or just stoopid." "It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last 6 days, 6 wks. I doubt 6 mths." Rummy 2/7/03
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Pioli Zombie Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: olathe,kansas Casino cash: $10004900	Aliens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Posted via Mobile Device
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CH13FS Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	Obviously no one here watches star trek, it's called WARP 9 PEOPLE
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Pioli Zombie Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: olathe,kansas Casino cash: $10004900	I think Josh Peck is the Anti-Christ. Posted via Mobile Device
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11-06-2009, 09:23 AM	#12
"Bob" Dobbs Kickin' it in Dobbstown. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southeast Kansas Casino cash: $9814317	I misspoke. What I mean is there won't be MANY new laws of physics discovered, New applications of the OLD laws OTOH will be the driving force.
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11-06-2009, 12:48 PM	#15
Jenson71 fides quaerens intellectum Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: United States Casino cash: $8330900	I'm not an astronomer. I'm not a scientist. I'm not a physical science major. My point is, we don't know that everything around us is not an illusion. It could be. But there is no evidence to suggest it is. So it's unreasonable to suggest that it probably is. Because it probably isn't. Same thing with aliens coming here, or us being aliens to natives of another solar system. Why would you think or believe in aliens coming here? Why would you say the government knows about it but is hiding it? It is unreasonable to think that aliens have come to earth. It is unreasonable to think that we will go to another solar system. Could we? Yes. It would take something we have no evidence of even remotely attaining. Could we be an illusion? Yes. But to prove this, it would take something we have no evidence of. Most people who think aliens have come or can come think they have really fast spaceships and are pale with big heads. Think of a spaceship going 200,000 mph through space and hitting a meteor. What would happen?
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