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Old 04-21-2010, 03:59 PM   #1
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can we please just give them Cassel and the #5 and be done with it?!?!?

Shit...

Give them Cassel, #36, and our 2011 1st and 3rd for all I care!
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Old 04-21-2010, 04:01 PM   #2
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Old 04-21-2010, 04:02 PM   #3
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that's fine with me...

I'll report back and tell you all if he really is a creepy, girl raping alcoholic....because I have my doubts about that one, too.
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Old 04-21-2010, 04:05 PM   #4
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that's fine with me...

I'll report back and tell you all if he really is a creepy, girl raping alcoholic....because I have my doubts about that one, too.
Long before this came out, I heard tons of stories about him and his actions off the field.

Believe the hype.
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Old 04-21-2010, 04:06 PM   #5
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Long before this came out, I heard tons of stories about him and his actions off the field.

Believe the hype.
I have few doubts that he's an asshole drunk, especially towards women...he's rich, a successful NFL QB, and young...no doubt in my mind he thinks he is superior to these young girls and can get any one of them he so chooses...

Doesn't mean I think he's walking around and raping them against their will...

Sorry, I don't trust 20 year old club rats with $$$ in their eyes.
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Old 04-21-2010, 04:05 PM   #6
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that's fine with me...

I'll report back and tell you all if he really is a creepy, girl raping alcoholic....because I have my doubts about that one, too.
Until you find out he was just using the girls to get to their boyfriends...........
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Old 04-21-2010, 04:01 PM   #7
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I think adding Roethlisberger, Berry, Thomas Jones, a few OL and a year of progression, familiarity and maturity and an upgrade in the coaching staff would spell all sorts of win for this offseason!

Pipe dream...

but if we offered all that (Cassel, 36, 2011 1st, 2011 3rd) for Roethlisberger it might be rather enticing to Pittsburgh.
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Old 04-21-2010, 04:02 PM   #8
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Notorious, I get that. But in some cases, the distractions outweigh on field performance.
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Old 04-21-2010, 04:05 PM   #9
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Notorious, I get that. But in some cases, the distractions outweigh on field performance.
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Dane, you get everything. You are one of the few on here that understand QB's, their importance, and what we need to do to get one worth a ****.


I can't even bust your balls since I agree with you most of the time .
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Old 04-21-2010, 04:06 PM   #10
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In a heartbeat.

I think Ben is guilty of being an absolute ****stick. A completely irresponsible, overgrown fratboy gorilla.

I don't actually think he raped the girl. A) He is an NFL QB. All he'd need to do is find another groupy. Did he try to nail a drunk girl? Yup, but that's hardly a select club. B) A rape kit would've shown some pretty serious evidence of it if he actually assaulted the girl.

So the question for me isn't "Can I have a rapist at QB?" it's, "Can I have a complete douchenozzle and misogynist at QB?"

Uh...yeah, I can live with that.
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Old 04-21-2010, 04:08 PM   #11
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Well Hootie, I don't.

I have a very close friend in Vegas who not only is involved in the club scene but whose wife worked at Harrah's for a decade that's told me the guy is VERY dirty.

Only you would give up Cassel, and 2011 first and third round picks for a guy that will miss six games or more next year.

Those 2011 picks would most likely be top ten.
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Old 04-21-2010, 04:13 PM   #12
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Well Hootie, I don't.

I have a very close friend in Vegas who not only is involved in the club scene but whose wife worked at Harrah's for a decade that's told me the guy is VERY dirty.

Only you would give up Cassel, and 2011 first and third round picks for a guy that will miss six games or more next year.

Those 2011 picks would most likely be top ten.
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Yeah...

You're right...

I'd give up those picks in a SECOND...for a 28 year old franchise Super Bowl winning NFL QB...and you know what?

I'd give up a hell of a lot more as well...this is the ultimate buy low situation and if they really jumped on Cassel, 36, 2011 1st and 2011 3rd for Roethlisberger and it allowed us to still draft Berry and keep our other picks this year...

Hell yeah I'd mortgage a potential top 10 pick in 2011 for a guy who would be UNTOUCHABLE FOR 10 TOP 10 PICKS if he didn't have such ridiculous character concern...

and in all honesty...if I could do a futures bet on whether Roethlisberger ever gets in any significant trouble EVER again during his NFL career...I'd put my $$$ on NO.
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lets take the exact same scenario minus the fancy security guards and replace Mr. Roethlisberger with me...a 24 year old drunk asshole who finds demeaning young girls to be kind of a sport.

If I hooked up with that drunk ass girl in the bathroom, I guarantee it wouldn't have been against her will...and she and her friends would have known that. (Because I'm a normal person and have no desire to rape someone and then live in fear that I'll end up going to prison for it and in turn end up being raped by big, strong, African American men...)

However, I'm 24 and have zero commas in my bank account...so her friends would have been like..."god damnit Lacey you're an idiot stop being such a slut!" and they would have gone club ratting at the next spot, and then the next spot, and then the next spot...like they do every weekend.

Instead she hooked up with a rich QB and they all hear the stories on the news and they're like...cha ching!
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Old 04-21-2010, 04:17 PM   #14
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lets take the exact same scenario minus the fancy security guards and replace Mr. Roethlisberger with me...a 24 year old drunk asshole who finds demeaning young girls to be kind of a sport.

If I hooked up with that drunk ass girl in the bathroom, I guarantee it wouldn't have been against her will...and she and her friends would have known that. (Because I'm a normal person and have no desire to rape someone and then live in fear that I'll end up going to prison for it and in turn end up being raped by big, strong, African American men...)

However, I'm 24 and have zero commas in my bank account...so her friends would have been like..."god damnit Lacey you're an idiot stop being such a slut!" and they would have gone club ratting at the next spot, and then the next spot, and then the next spot...like they do every weekend.

Instead she hooked up with a rich QB and they all hear the stories on the news and they're like...cha ching!
read the police report

plus the fact that the bathroom was scrubbed so no dna was available, and the security tapes were mysteriously erased...

the whole thing stinks to high heaven....the guy is a major ****ing creep who got off because he's rich and famous
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Old 04-21-2010, 04:21 PM   #15
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read the police report

plus the fact that the bathroom was scrubbed so no dna was available, and the security tapes were mysteriously erased...

the whole thing stinks to high heaven....the guy is a major ****ing creep who got off because he's rich and famous
I don't care what picture anyone is trying to paint for me...whether it be a police report...or whether they had hardcore, consensual, porno style, hair grabbing anal sex and he shot his massive load all over the bathroom and then was worried this very sexual assault scenario may present itself because the girl was 20, a club rat, and intoxicated...

I just refuse to believe a high profile, rich, WHITE (sorry, has to be said) NFL QB walks around with his posse and rapes girls because that's his fetish and then expects to get away with it...

Sorry.

I find that extremely hard to believe...

and find my scenario to be WAY more likely.
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