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Old 04-27-2010, 10:27 AM  
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Weiss told Fox to take Clausen
It's water under the bridge, but interesting nonetheless:

In doing pre-draft research, not that he thought he'd have a chance to get Clausen, Fox talked to Charlie Weis, his good friend and the former Irish coach. Weis and Fox are close. Fox is sure Weis wouldn't lie to him. "Charlie said he's probably the best he's ever had,'' Fox said. "He said, 'Take this guy. Trust me.' Everyone I talked to, including a couple of people at Notre Dame, said the character issue was b.s. So we picked him.''

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Old 04-27-2010, 12:35 PM   #121
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so...

out of those 19 teams, you think New England, Baltimore and Tampa Bay don't have legitimate reasons to take a QB...and Washington...

so that still leaves 15 teams that passed on him...half of the NFL...

OBVIOUSLY...

CLEARLY..

No one thinks he is going to be an answer to their QB problems...other than the Panthers who had pick #48 and probably had no clue that he was going to fall that far...

so he went to the one team that probably had little interest in scouting him...

NICE!

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Old 04-27-2010, 12:35 PM   #122
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Other than Aaron Rodgers...name a late 1st round pick that has gone to a Pro Bowl in the last 10 years.

Completely irrelevant to anything -- there haven't even been that many late 1st round QB's drafted. Every draft only sees a very small handful of QBs drafted in rounds 1-2, and because of positional value they tend to go near the top of round 1.

Not even sure what point you're trying to prove here. If you want guys that slid out of the first round and turned out to be pretty good, you've got plenty of evidence for that -- Brady, Montana, Warner, Favre, etc.
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Old 04-27-2010, 12:37 PM   #123
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Pioli sacrificed a 2nd round pick on a player that was a"Pioli pick" which is from Kiper not me, and ignored Weis's opinion who was the former OC of the Patriots who helped Brady to what he is. That screams ego to the worst degree when Pioli makes unilateral decision(pulls rank, executive decision) like that.
Wait -- on what basis are you saying he ignored Weis' opinion? As I noted before, you cant' extrapolate "I like Clausen" to "WE should draft Clausen because I like him a helluva lot more than Cassel".
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Old 04-27-2010, 12:38 PM   #124
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so...

out of those 19 teams, you think New England, Baltimore and Tampa Bay don't have legitimate reasons to take a QB...and Washington...

so that still leaves 15 teams that passed on him...half of the NFL...

OBVIOUSLY...

CLEARLY..

No one thinks he is going to be an answer to their QB problems...other than the Panthers who had pick #48 and probably had no clue that he was going to fall that far...

so he went to the one team that probably had little interest in scouting him...

NICE!

DAMNIT, CARL!
You're basically frothing at the mouth and making no sense.

The one thing you've said that is remotely sensible is that no team in the NFL thought highly ENOUGH of him to make him a first round pick, and therefore, obviously, nobody is convinced he's the second coming of Joe Montana.

The rest is basically deranged ranting.
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Old 04-27-2010, 12:40 PM   #125
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Wait -- on what basis are you saying he ignored Weis' opinion? As I noted before, you cant' extrapolate "I like Clausen" to "WE should draft Clausen because I like him a helluva lot more than Cassel".
Well let's look what happened during the #36 pick, it went down to the wire with 10 seconds remaining before the pick was finally delivered where their must've been a major disagreement that was trying to be resolved. Pioli pulled rank, and McCluster was the pick.
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Old 04-27-2010, 12:42 PM   #126
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Well let's look what happened during the #36 pick, it went down to the wire with 10 seconds remaining where their must've been a major disagreement that was trying to be resolved. Pioli pulled rank, and McCluster was the pick.
Holy crap. That's a hell of a lot of speculating. For all you know some team was trying to trade up into the spot, and the Chiefs were trying to get a better package from them, and it went down to the wire.

Or the Chiefs were desperately trying to move back because they knew they could get their guy (or one of a group of guys with similar value) and were trying to find a trade partner.

In fact, those scenarios are about 97% more likely than Pioli and Haley having some kind of Mexican Standoff in the Warroom over who the pick was going to be. You think they only THEN decided whether Clausen or Cassel was the QBOTF?
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Old 04-27-2010, 12:45 PM   #127
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I never said Clausen is going to be a bust. I hope everything works out for the guy...

I was also resigned to the fact that if we didn't take Clausen, we didn't want Clausen...

As a fan...and a fan of the big bang picks like Clausen...I certainly wanted to hear his name at #36...

When it didn't happen, it became quite clear to me we NEVER wanted him.

and you know what?

I GOT OVER IT...

and now I'm excited to see what McCluster and Arenas (and the others) will bring to this team...
THIS, but good luck getting some to realize it
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Old 04-27-2010, 12:46 PM   #128
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THIS, but good luck getting some to realize it
Yeah, he made sense on that one. Then he started putting up some detail and started getting increasingly nonsensical.
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Old 04-27-2010, 12:48 PM   #130
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Well let's look what happened during the #36 pick, it went down to the wire with 10 seconds remaining before the pick was finally delivered where their must've been a major disagreement that was trying to be resolved. Pioli pulled rank, and McCluster was the pick.
but weis wasnt even in the room, right? hell i'm sure there is a thread where all the "usual suspects" are saying that pioli didnt let weis or crennell in the war room
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Yeah, he made sense on that one. Then he started putting up some detail and started getting increasingly nonsensical.
he goes a little far trying to prove his point some times. BUT so do the guys on the other side
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but weis wasnt even in the room, right? hell i'm sure there is a thread where all the "usual suspects" are saying that pioli didnt let weis or crennell in the war room
That would be true for the Patriots at least. They run a very small war room. It's basically Bob Kraft (owner), Jonathan Kraft (team President, owner's son), Belichick (head coach), Nick Caserio (Player Development / pseudo-GM), Ernie Adams (the Smoking Man), and that's about it. No coordinators, scouts, etc., though they can be pulled in for consultations, etc.

But of course, not all teams run it the same way.
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but weis wasnt even in the room, right? hell i'm sure there is a thread where all the "usual suspects" are saying that pioli didnt let weis or crennell in the war room
Wasn't there video posted of the war room when they took Berry and neither Wies nor Crennel were present?
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Old 04-27-2010, 01:16 PM   #134
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To Hootie's point, if Clausen is such a can't-miss franchise QB (and we all know that QB is the most important position), why wouldn't every team want him? Why wouldn't teams with established QBs take him just to trade him later or trade their current QB? A franchise QB has to be worth a couple of first or second rounders right?

Oh, wait. He's not a guarantee, and many teams (THE CHIEFS INCLUDED) obviously don't even view him as worthy of a second round pick.

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Don't forget Sanchez too, just watch when Cassel fails this season Weis will be so frustrated because it will be his "his" pick for the QB crop this year when he could've had his boy.
If Cassel fails , we'll be in position to draft a QB next year better than Clausen.
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