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Old 09-21-2010, 02:13 PM   #1
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You are so far off on your assessment of Albert and Richardson, that you have lost all credibility
Have to start with credibility to lose credibility.
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Old 09-21-2010, 02:33 PM   #2
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You are so far off on your assessment of Albert and Richardson, that you have lost all credibility when giving an opinion on any other position/player.
No, I'm not. The drafturbators would rather burn their eyes out with a hot spoon than draft an offensive lineman, so they formulate this falsehood that Richardson, O'Murphy and Albert are actually quality NFL tackles. They aren't. I dare you to objectively watch replay's of the past two games and all four pre-season games and tell me that they have the skills to effectively play the position at even 50% of the top two at their position.

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We all understand you wanted Okung. Get over it.
I was over it the moment we drafted Berry. And I had no problem with the team drafting Berry. We needed a safety. Although, I think we could have picked a quality one later in the draft (Morgan Burnett was the guy I wanted with the Chiefs second or third round pick, and he's now staring for the Packers.). And me wanting Okung in the draft has nothing to do with the actual on-field play of Richardson and Albert.

Just because you, along with the handful of Drafturbators, refuse to accept a LT as a viable first round selection when we've already got one on the team, regardless of his effectiveness at that position, doesn't mean that I'm fixated on a particular player. I'm not. However, I do understand the importance of the LT position and feel that the Chiefs had the chance to address the problems that the team has at that position in the past two drafts.

However, I don't think Pioli has any desire to draft offensive linemen and thinks that they can be coached up to perform at a decent level. So, you and your merry little band of "draft a playmaker" guys can all be happy that that is exactly what the Scott Pioli led Chiefs will do and instead rely on mediocre free agent acquisitions to fill our perceived holes on the offensive line.
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Old 09-21-2010, 11:59 AM   #3
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Petro is a baseball guy. He loves stats and numbers. He uses them to judge everything, it's just that football isn't as reliant on numbers as baseball.

Are we judging Berry on basically two plays? I saw him make some really good plays and I saw him overreact to a few. I think he's a special talent that will have a moment when it clicks.
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Old 09-21-2010, 12:08 PM   #4
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If you don't think Berry is a big reason why they're 9th in the league in both rushing YPG and rush YPC, you just aren't paying attention. Or you're an idiot. Maybe both. Whatever.
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Old 09-21-2010, 12:12 PM   #5
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If you don't think Berry is a big reason why they're 9th in the league in both rushing YPG and rush YPC, you just aren't paying attention. Or you're an idiot. Maybe both. Whatever.
I'd actually attribute the jump in our run defense to having Belcher and Johnson as our starting MLB/ILB versus Mays/Williams last season. Both have been very solid against the run in the first two games.

Also having a guy who can coach/call a 3-4 defense in Crennel helps a ton too.

Berry has played well against the run though.
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Old 09-21-2010, 12:13 PM   #6
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He may or may not be a bust, but I honestly believe that taking a S that high was a mistake. Ok, so if he turns out to be Ed Reed Jr. I will be wrong. But if he turns out to be just a good (not great) safety, then we would've been better off going any number of other directions. It sucks seeing him get burned so badly in the pass game, I hope it is just 'rookie mistakes' like everyone says...It is way to early to say he is a bust IMO but I was not and am not over joyed with the pick (yet!).
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Old 09-21-2010, 01:11 PM   #7
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He may or may not be a bust, but I honestly believe that taking a S that high was a mistake. Ok, so if he turns out to be Ed Reed Jr. I will be wrong. But if he turns out to be just a good (not great) safety, then we would've been better off going any number of other directions. It sucks seeing him get burned so badly in the pass game, I hope it is just 'rookie mistakes' like everyone says...It is way to early to say he is a bust IMO but I was not and am not over joyed with the pick (yet!).
Getting burned is not the same as missing your assignment altogether. Getting burned is when you know your assignment but either you can't make your turn fluidly enough or are too slow to stick with the receiver physically, or a combination of both. That hasn't happened with Berry yet. Missing your assignment is correctable, not being physically gifted enough is not.

Berry didn't get burned.
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Old 09-21-2010, 12:23 PM   #8
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He always watched his games in college to correct mistakes, he will do the same as a Chief. He will be fine. He is doing fine as is minus a few things.
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Old 09-21-2010, 12:27 PM   #9
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Two days in a row Petro has beat this drum. He's just burying Eric Berry (Berry-ing him?)

Good grief.
Really? That stupid ****stick is REALLY saying that shit? No, no, no; no True Fan there! No, none at all.

**** him. Seriously.
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Old 09-21-2010, 12:35 PM   #10
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Two days in a row Petro has beat this drum. He's just burying Eric Berry (Berry-ing him?)

Good grief.
Soren Petro is HHH?
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Old 09-21-2010, 12:37 PM   #11
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Soren Petro is HHH?
Speaking of him, apparently he's got an office job now, so he can bury people officially.
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Old 09-21-2010, 10:17 PM   #12
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Speaking of him, apparently he's got an office job now, so he can bury people officially.

That's funny. I thought he hated jobbing.
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Soren Petro is HHH?
Hubert H. Humphry?
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Old 09-21-2010, 02:41 PM   #15
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The Chiefs have given up 2 sacks in 2 games. The sack that Cleveland got was 100% on Cassel. 1 sack in 2 games does not place either tackle "at even 50% of the top two at their position." The team is also 5th in the league in rushing (yards per game) 9th in yards per attempt. That's a great stat considering how bad the passing game is.

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