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Old 08-19-2013, 10:14 PM   #1
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he was okay for a season with the seahawks and then resorted back to sucking.

I guess it is kind of rare.

I guess Cedric Benson would be one.
Detroit took 2 or 3 WRs with their first pick in 2-3 consecutive years, it was when Millen was the GM. The only WR that panned out was Calvin Johnson. The other one was Williams and then wasn't there another WR or was it just those 2?
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:16 PM   #2
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Detroit took 2 or 3 WRs with their first pick in 2-3 consecutive years, it was when Millen was the GM. The only WR that panned out was Calvin Johnson. The other one was Williams and then wasn't there another WR or was it just those 2?
There was indeed another WR selected.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:16 PM   #3
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Detroit took 2 or 3 WRs with their first pick in 2-3 consecutive years, it was when Millen was the GM. The only WR that panned out was Calvin Johnson. The other one was Williams and then wasn't there another WR or was it just those 2?
Charles Rogers, then Mike Williams, then Calvin.

I actually REALLY liked Charles Rogers. Drugs, and injuries ruined his career. He had real potential though.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:19 PM   #4
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Charles Rogers, then Mike Williams, then Calvin.

I actually REALLY liked Charles Rogers. Drugs, and injuries ruined his career. He had real potential though.
Yah, Rogers was supposed to be great. Mike Williams was kind of a sketchy pick as he only had like one good year, but he was big. At least Megatron panned out for them...
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Old 08-20-2013, 03:51 PM   #5
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Charles Rogers, then Mike Williams, then Calvin.

I actually REALLY liked Charles Rogers. Drugs, and injuries ruined his career. He had real potential though.
I don't remember Mike Williams. I remember Roy Williams. Fast, but he was always getting hurt.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:13 PM   #6
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A player can be a "bust" w/o being a first round pick. NFL history is full of examples. Unitas was a great player, but he wasn't considered to be much early in his NFL career. There are many guys who started slow or who were in the wrong system.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:30 PM   #7
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Calvin Pace was a disappointment when he was in Arizona and played well with the Jets.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:33 PM   #8
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I wonder if Kerry Collins qualifies?

He was really good for Carolina and then flamed out with the infamous clip of him smoking a stogie as he left the cop shop.

After that he went to a SB and took the Titans to a 13-3 record...
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I wonder if Kerry Collins qualifies?

He was really good for Carolina and then flamed out with the infamous clip of him smoking a stogie as he left the cop shop.

After that he went to a SB and took the Titans to a 13-3 record...
Yeah, he was okay with the Panthers, sucked with the Saints, went to New York and got to a super bowl, and then was okay in Tennessee.

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Old 08-20-2013, 03:53 PM   #10
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I wonder if Kerry Collins qualifies?

He was really good for Carolina and then flamed out with the infamous clip of him smoking a stogie as he left the cop shop.

After that he went to a SB and took the Titans to a 13-3 record...
Collins & Dilfer. The 2 worst NFL QBs to get super bowl rings.
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Collins & Dilfer. The 2 worst NFL QBs to get super bowl rings.
Do you mean Brad Johnson and Dilfer?
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Do you mean Brad Johnson and Dilfer?
IIRC, Brad Johnson had a career year in 2002 when TB won the super bowl, and was actually a very good QB. He was sort of the anti-Alex. Lousy efficiency but decent production.

I am under the impression that Doug Williams and Rob Johnson were a step up from Dilfer & Colllins, but I could well be wrong.
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IIRC, Brad Johnson had a career year in 2002 when TB won the super bowl, and was actually a very good QB. He was sort of the anti-Alex. Lousy efficiency but decent production.
Your memory is completely faulty.

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I am under the impression that Doug Williams and Rob Johnson were a step up from Dilfer & Colllins, but I could well be wrong.
Rob Johnson, the USC QB drafted by Jacksonville, traded to Buffalo and was later with the Bucs? He sucked ass. Strong arm, no accuracy.

Doug Williams was a very good quarterback on a some very bad Tampa Bay teams, although he did take his team to their first NFC Championship. He was very good in the USFL and won a Super Bowl in Washington.
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Old 08-20-2013, 04:57 PM   #14
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IIRC, Brad Johnson had a career year in 2002 when TB won the super bowl, and was actually a very good QB. He was sort of the anti-Alex. Lousy efficiency but decent production.

I am under the impression that Doug Williams and Rob Johnson were a step up from Dilfer & Colllins, but I could well be wrong.
I was going more down the line of Kerry Collins not having a SB ring.
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It seems the key to being a high round draft pick bust is being picked by a team that is locked into at least a decade of terrible play.

Several TB guys, Arizona. It is a bit shocking Detroits post-Barry run didn't produce anyone other than Mike Williams and that's stretching it.
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