****OFFICIAL DENVER'S DEFENSE IS HORRIBLE THREAD****

[Mother****erJones]

Knowmo we may not be missing some D starters but were on our 4th and 5th TE

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Knowmo we may not be missing some D starters but were on our 4th and 5th TE

And we lost Avery for a big chunk of game. Not to mention that the whole offense is new and everyone is still learning it. Everyone forgets that part. I think the offense will get better as the season progresses.

[keg in kc]

A good game the way they look right now will be holding them under 30. But we can't beat them with the offensive production we've had so far. It's just not enough. Fortunately there's a bunch of time between now and then.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

A good game the way they look right now will be holding them under 30. But we can't beat them with the offensive production we've had so far. It's just not enough. Fortunately there's a bunch of time between now and then.

I was actually encouraged by the offense today. I thought it was the best defense they'd seen all year and the ol played well, we pushed it down field more etc.

We just have lulls where we go flat and we can't settle for field goals.

People were pissed about us not scoring more in the first half, which is true, we probably should have, but that's a top 10 defense.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

A good game the way they look right now will be holding them under 30. But we can't beat them with the offensive production we've had so far. It's just not enough. Fortunately there's a bunch of time between now and then.

Yep. I assure you Manning can't wait to play us and show that our D to him is nothing but 'fools gold' and why as you say shore up our offense to some degree where eat up some major clock while scoring TDs the majority of the time while our D gets some rest so they can take on Manning when need be.

[Dayze]

don't matter. if our offense performs the way they did in 3/4 of the game today and not score, the game won't matter anyway.

if KC is down 2+ possession at nearly any point in the game, our offense is toast.
short of a turnover that gives us a short field or points; same with STs.

KC had better get some 3rd down conversions more than their awesome 1 for 12 (or something very sad) or Manning is going to have a field day.

[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by Dayze

don't matter. if our offense performs the way they did in 3/4 of the game today and not score, the game won't matter anyway.

if KC is down 2+ possession at nearly any point in the game, our offense is toast.
short of a turnover that gives us a short field or points; same with STs.

KC had better get some 3rd down conversions more than their awesome 1 for 12 (or something very sad) or Manning is going to have a field day.

Probably true, but this the 1st game we even started actually looked to strike down field against a defense sagging in on us to limit the underneath. We still moved it, against the best D we've faced to date. Penalties and Turnovers stalled drives and that won't cut it when facing the better offensive teams,

But other than maybe the Saints and Broncos, what teams do you feel could simply score us out of doing our prescribed gameplan?

So, the offense is a work in progress, and there's nothing assured that we will improve, but this team went on the road and won against to team that very well maybe a wild card team. With Indy likely to win that division, but think of it this way- we have the schedule to assure ourselves of a favorable seed if they stay the course and take care of business.

Maybe unlikely as it would be to win the division, the chance to keep pace with the Broncos, with the hope they split the home and Home with them, may be the greatest motivating factor for this Chiefs team to avoid those trap games, looking ahead, or coming out flat because they know that the margin of error of getting ahead of Denver will require no mistakes and giving a W away that they could or should have won.

it'd be unrealistic to think they won't have at least one game were gonna walk away from with a bad taste in our mouth. But, Andy has these guys locked in, and its pretty easy to see the jubilation by everyone in the locker room after each win is growing.

This team tasted defeat and turmoil to the extreme last year, and that sits in the back of everyone's mind. Their desire to not relive this even for a single game and continue to stay hungry and silence to skeptics is all the fuel a young talented team needs. Coupled with a coaching staff that is actually capable of giving them the tools and game plan to actually get the roster 1 to 53 fully buying in and ready to run through walls to build on their success.


We were ****ing 2 - 14 last year and a rudderless ship, and now the mood around here is people hypothesizing how are we going to win against the elite teams in the NFL.


Of course I want to win it all, but that's a pretty damn good set of problems to speculate on in contrast to the sad state of affairs like wondering when we'd actually have a lead in the game for the 1st time in the entire season.

It's not so terrible to enjoy wherever this season takes us and so far it's been a roller coaster that every chiefs fan has clearly been enjoying. That doesn't even mention the enthusiasm of having such a young talented team, and having the GM and Coaches capable of identifying talent and guys like Cooper in other areas of need- like say at Safety next to Berry, or a beast TE if Kelce doesn't pan out.

IMO, I think we're gonna be looking at trying to carry 2 top level TEs down the road. Smith loves his security blanket TEs, and I can only fathom the possibilities Andy could throw at opposing defenses with double tight end sets that can block and catch in match up nightmares while Charles is lined up in the backfield and Bowe also has to be accounted for.

We don't need the Rams spread wrs when you can go jumbo w double TE and run and pass like crazy out of the same personnel package and Defenses can't scheme nearly as well when you can gash them in endless ways. Not to mention that plays right into Smiths bread basket where he can really excel in being able distribute the ball around and avoid the turnovers, in a PYP group package ( Pick Your Poison).

[Chiefspants]

Manning is a Hall of Famer and likely one of if not the most intelligent quarterback to ever play the game. With that said, I don't understand the doom and gloom attitudes about playing the Broncos this year. In our first five games, the Chiefs and Broncos have had three common opponents, one terrible opponent (Oak and Jax) and one good (arguably great) opponent (Ten and Bal).

This win by the Broncos today reminded me a lot of the win we had over the Packers in 2003. Sure, it was a memorable win over a mediocre-good opponent, but similar to the Chiefs in 2003, today's game may have revealed the depth of Denver's defensive weaknesses.

Denver has yet to play a defense like ours, and heck, has yet to play a truly impressive opponent (again, much like the 03 Chiefs). It's possible they will sweep us, sure, but remember, this is almost the same team that Romeo and company held to 17 points at Arrowhead last year.

From what we've seen from the 2013 Chiefs and Broncos, I do not believe we can yet assume that our games against Denver will be automatic losses.

[#1 Bronco's Fan]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Denver has yet to play a defense like ours, and heck, has yet to play a truly impressive opponent (again, much like the 03 Chiefs). It's possible they will sweep us, sure, but remember, this is almost the same team that Romeo and company held to 17 points at Arrowhead last year.

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Yeah and they held Denver to 38 at Mile High

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Donks D isn't Tenn. Our D isn't Dallas. It is all about how we match up against them and oh we do so well.

[ClevelandBronco]

Early line on the Jacksonville game: Broncos –28.

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

Early line on the Jacksonville game: Broncos –28.

Hooray. Alabama could beat Jax.

[beer bacon]

Denver is number one in the NFL in point differential at +91. We're number two at +70, but we've given up 81 less points. That's just over sixteen points a game.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Heard the league is forcing them to dtart Assweiler to level the playing field to even

[mr. tegu]

It's impossible I know but how awesome would it be if Jax won.