College athletes on their way to a union.

[Jimmya]

It could jack the athletes up because many schools will not let them in if they don't meet the guidelines to get in.

[mr. tegu]

People need to stop citing the full ride scholarships as some great benefit that should keep the students happy and grateful. The "free" education they receive can be taken away at any time because of their abilities on the field or not complying with some other ridiculous rule. As far as I know, none of them are guaranteed a free, four year education (perhaps some are?). That argument that it is adequate "compensation" is ridiculous since there is no guarantee that they will all get a free education since it is dependent upon their athletics.

Also, we know they spend a ton of time on the field practicing basically year round. Some of them probably don't care about their major because they intend to go pro, but plenty of them would surely choose a more difficult major if given the time to actually do the work and learn it at an adequate level.

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

People need to stop citing the full ride scholarships as some great benefit that should keep the students happy and grateful. The "free" education they receive can be taken away at any time because of their abilities on the field or not complying with some other ridiculous rule. As far as I know, none of them are guaranteed a free, four year education (perhaps some are?). That argument that it is adequate "compensation" is ridiculous since there is no guarantee that they will all get a free education since it is dependent upon their athletics.

Also, we know they spend a ton of time on the field practicing basically year round. Some of them probably don't care about their major because they intend to go pro, but plenty of them would surely choose a more difficult major if given the time to actually do the work and learn it at an adequate level.

So I'm supposed to give 3 shits about some guy who works out year round instead of studying? College is a place for learning, athletics should be included as extracurricular to benefit that student. In terms of pulling scholarships, if they don't do the work they get fired? Sounds like a job to me.

Furthermore, how many brain dead dumb ass athletes do you see on TV after going pro? Would they be able to go pro if they don't attend college? Seems like their whole purpose of going in the first place is to get exposure to a professional league. Isn't that a form of payment as well? It's a freaking tryout to the league.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Dick Bull

So I'm supposed to give 3 shits about some guy who works out year round instead of studying? College is a place for learning, athletics should be included as extracurricular to benefit that student. In terms of pulling scholarships, if they don't do the work they get fired? Sounds like a job to me.

Furthermore, how many brain dead dumb ass athletes do you see on TV after going pro? Would they be able to go pro if they don't attend college? Seems like their whole purpose of going in the first place is to get exposure to a professional league. Isn't that a form of payment as well? It's a freaking tryout to the league.

You should re-read my post. This time actually read it. Also, quit focusing solely on the small percentage who are there only to go pro.

[mikey23545]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

People need to stop citing the full ride scholarships as some great benefit that should keep the students happy and grateful. The "free" education they receive can be taken away at any time because of their abilities on the field or not complying with some other ridiculous rule. As far as I know, none of them are guaranteed a free, four year education (perhaps some are?). That argument that it is adequate "compensation" is ridiculous since there is no guarantee that they will all get a free education since it is dependent upon their athletics.

Also, we know they spend a ton of time on the field practicing basically year round. Some of them probably don't care about their major because they intend to go pro, but plenty of them would surely choose a more difficult major if given the time to actually do the work and learn it at an adequate level.

Oh, you mean like all the rest of us who can be fired from our jobs because of poor performance?

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by mikey23545

Oh, you mean like all the rest of us who can be fired from our jobs because of poor performance?

Is their athletics a job now?

[mikey23545]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Is their athletics a job now?

That's what you're comparing it to.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by mikey23545

That's what you're comparing it to.

And so are you.

[mikey23545]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

People need to stop citing the full ride scholarships as some great benefit that should keep the students happy and grateful. The "free" education they receive can be taken away at any time because of their abilities on the field or not complying with some other ridiculous rule. As far as I know, none of them are guaranteed a free, four year education (perhaps some are?). That argument that it is adequate "compensation" is ridiculous since there is no guarantee that they will all get a free education since it is dependent upon their athletics.

Also, we know they spend a ton of time on the field practicing basically year round. Some of them probably don't care about their major because they intend to go pro, but plenty of them would surely choose a more difficult major if given the time to actually do the work and learn it at an adequate level.

Then why don't they eschew football and pursue their academic aims if that is their desire?

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by mikey23545

Then why don't they eschew football and pursue their academic aims if that is their desire?

Because they might lose their scholarship and free education everyone says is so valuable if they focus too much on academics?

[mikey23545]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Because they might lose their scholarship and free education everyone says is so valuable if they focus too much on academics?

Obviously you cannot read with comprehension.


Then why don't they eschew football and pursue their academic aims if that is their desire?

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by mikey23545

Obviously you cannot read with comprehension.


Then why don't they eschew football and pursue their academic aims if that is their desire?

This is even more ridiculous then. Now they should pass up a free education all together that is oh so valuable, because they can't do what they want to do on the athletic scholarship.

[mr. tegu]

"You get a free, full ride, four year scholarship. But it is only for a year at a time. Oh, and make sure you don't get injured either!"

[mikey23545]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

"You get a free, full ride, four year scholarship. But it is only for a year at a time. Oh, and make sure you don't get injured either!"

They get free medical care, unlike a lot of us poor saps working for a living.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by mikey23545

They get free medical care, unlike a lot of us poor saps working for a living.

They get free medical care while on scholarship. What about when it is taken away because of the injury?