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Old 06-08-2015, 07:02 PM   #1
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The negative impact of a turnover is far greater than the positive impact of a touchdown
I'm sorry, but this idea is absolutely ridiculous. Just comically absurd.
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Old 06-08-2015, 07:10 PM   #2
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I'm sorry, but this idea is absolutely ridiculous. Just comically absurd.
actually i think it's been statistically proven to be correct


not losing a game is almost always the most important thing

The key is finding a place in the middle where you don't make the huge game losing mistake while still being aggressive enough to gain as much "winning" plays as you can.
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Old 06-08-2015, 07:14 PM   #3
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actually i think it's been statistically proven to be correct


not losing a game is almost always the most important thing

The key is finding a place in the middle where you don't make the huge game losing mistake while still being aggressive enough to gain as much "winning" plays as you can.
No, it hasn't.

There is a correlation between turnover ratio and winning, but the defense has something to do with that too.

There's not a coach alive who would choose a turnover free drive over 6 guaranteed points.

I'd love to know the average conversion percentage of TDs off opponent QB's INTs. Some of you guys (not you specifically, Laz) think a turnover is guaranteed points for the opposition, and it's nowhere close to it.
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Old 06-08-2015, 01:23 PM   #4
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Here's how many passes some of the bigger name qbs threw last year that traveled 21+ yards in the air..

Aaron Rodgers 48
Ben Rothlisberger 63
Joe Flacco 55
Tom Brady 48
Peyton Manning 56
Eli manning 46
Drew Brees 52
Andrew Luck 74
Matt Ryan 51
Phillip Rivers 60
Tony Romo 50
Russel Wilson 45
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Old 06-08-2015, 01:41 PM   #5
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Here's how many passes some of the bigger name qbs threw last year that traveled 21+ yards in the air..

Aaron Rodgers 48
Ben Rothlisberger 63
Joe Flacco 55
Tom Brady 48
Peyton Manning 56
Eli manning 46
Drew Brees 52
Andrew Luck 74
Matt Ryan 51
Phillip Rivers 60
Tony Romo 50
Russel Wilson 45
Like I said...Even if Alex gets to 40 attempts he'd be bottom third.

He's so far behind everyone sle.
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Old 06-08-2015, 04:22 PM   #6
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They've asked him since season 1 here to let it air. The guy just isn't going to do it consistently. It's like trying to convince Favre he should be more cautious with the ball. At some point, you just say that's who he is.
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Old 06-08-2015, 05:22 PM   #7
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In a 10 year career, Alex Smith has thrown 42 completions of 40+ yards.

In 3 years, Russell Wilson has 29.
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Old 06-08-2015, 05:27 PM   #8
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In a 10 year career, Alex Smith has thrown 42 completions of 40+ yards.

In 3 years, Russell Wilson has 29.
Russell Wilson also has (without looking) 5-8 playoff wins in those three years and a Lombardi Trophy.

But hey, his regular season stats (as a third year player) are similar to Alex's, so in the feeble minds of morons, they are comparable.

I'd also be willing to bet Wilson has as many, or nearly as many come from behind victories as Alex in 1/3 the time.

I have some argument with Hootie over him, but I have to admit the kid is clutch. Something Alex is not.
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Old 06-08-2015, 05:29 PM   #9
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Russell Wilson also has (without looking) 5-8 playoff wins in those three years and a Lombardi Trophy.

But hey, his regular season stats (as a third year player) are similar to Alex's, so in the feeble minds of morons, they are comparable.

I'd also be willing to bet Wilson has as many, or nearly as many come from behind victories as Alex in 1/3 the time.

I have some argument with Hootie over him, but I have to admit the kid is clutch. Something Alex is not.
He is the premier game manager of our day.
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Old 06-08-2015, 05:32 PM   #10
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He is the premier game manager of our day.
Whatever. I'm not even going to get into this argument.

Wilson slings the rock around the yard. If you want to call him a game manager then that's fine. Just recognize that he's DAMN good.
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Old 06-08-2015, 06:32 PM   #11
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I have some argument with Hootie over him, but I have to admit the kid is clutch. Something Alex is not.
This may be my biggest issue with Alex at QB.

First of all, I've never been one to be wowed by yardage stats. I couldn't give two shits less if Alex throws for 220 ypg. What I care about is whether or not he makes clutch plays when necessary. Thus far, he's been the polar ****ing opposite of clutch.

What's worse is the fact that a guy with his play style absolutely needs to be clutch. He won't light up the scoreboard but his risk aversion will likely keep us within 7 points near the end of most games. The difference between making those plays and not making those plays in crunch time is Russell Wilson and Alex Smith. It's the difference between wins and losses. It's the difference between Super Bowls and first round playoff exits.
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Old 06-08-2015, 06:48 PM   #12
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First of all, I've never been one to be wowed by yardage stats. I couldn't give two shits less if Alex throws for 220 ypg.
Something more I want to note on this subject: I don't tend to mind the fact that a winning QB doesn't always throw for a ton of yards throughout a game. I value efficiency over gaudy stats. The ability to do so when necessary, however, is extremely important.

When cracking 300 yards in a game (only once in 2014) or gaining 40 yards to put your team in field goal position (final drive of Cards game) becomes such a laborious effort, it's a problem; and I think that problem is symptomatic of his unwillingness to look down field.

That's why I view Russell Wilson as a higher tier QB than Alex despite "similar" stats.
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Old 06-08-2015, 06:56 PM   #13
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That's why I view Russell Wilson as a higher tier QB than Alex despite "similar" stats.
Look at the chart I posted. Russ is near the top of the league in percentage of his attempts over 20 yards.

Alex was probably last.

If Wilson played in a more pass-friendly system his numbers would be huge.
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Old 06-08-2015, 06:09 PM   #14
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In a 10 year career, Alex Smith has thrown 42 completions of 40+ yards.

In 3 years, Russell Wilson has 29.
Do you think its his dreamy eyes? It has to be. No other rational explanation.
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Do you think its his dreamy eyes? It has to be. No other rational explanattion.
I seriously do think some of these ASsexuals have crushes on him.
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