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Old 04-19-2025, 09:12 AM   #1
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I love Burden, but I just don't think they're taking a WR in the 1st, especially with Nolen on the board.

I'd also just rather have Nolen and one of Jalen Royals, Kyle Williams, or Tre Harris over Burden and one of T.J. Sanders, Omarr Norman-Lott, or Shemar Turner.
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Luther Burden: “You wish you had bigger and faster for outside but he’s a good enough player to do it,” one scout said. “He’s probably most effective in the slot. There’s some really strong comparisons to Deebo Samuel. He’s got great hands. Really natural after the catch. Has vision, elusiveness, strength, toughness. One of the worst practice players you’ve ever seen but his talent on the field makes you take notice. There’s times when his routes are lacking but it’s more like effort and discipline (than) talent.”

“He’s a 5-star, they kiss his ass for three years just to keep him there,” another scout said. “The girlfriend is his manager. The mom is a problem. But he’s a good player on Saturday and he’s very ordinary Monday through Friday. That’s an area he’s really going to have to improve. I thought his tape from 2023 was better than 2024 but I also thought the quarterback play was a little better a year ago. If you take him you’re gritting your teeth that you’re going to have a (Sunday) player who isn’t going to add much to your team the other five, six days of the week. He’s a shaky first-rounder and a little more of a second-rounder because you can’t get anybody to really sign off on a clean bill of health as far as the personality and the intangibles.”
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Old 04-19-2025, 10:19 AM   #2
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This scares me about Burden…

Luther Burden: “You wish you had bigger and faster for outside but he’s a good enough player to do it,” one scout said. “He’s probably most effective in the slot. There’s some really strong comparisons to Deebo Samuel. He’s got great hands. Really natural after the catch. Has vision, elusiveness, strength, toughness. One of the worst practice players you’ve ever seen but his talent on the field makes you take notice. There’s times when his routes are lacking but it’s more like effort and discipline (than) talent.”

“He’s a 5-star, they kiss his ass for three years just to keep him there,” another scout said. “The girlfriend is his manager. The mom is a problem. But he’s a good player on Saturday and he’s very ordinary Monday through Friday. That’s an area he’s really going to have to improve. I thought his tape from 2023 was better than 2024 but I also thought the quarterback play was a little better a year ago. If you take him you’re gritting your teeth that you’re going to have a (Sunday) player who isn’t going to add much to your team the other five, six days of the week. He’s a shaky first-rounder and a little more of a second-rounder because you can’t get anybody to really sign off on a clean bill of health as far as the personality and the intangibles.”
Ehh... not worried if his mom is a problem. We've dealt with Philip Gaines' mom on here before. We'll be ready.
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Old 04-18-2025, 02:08 PM   #3
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I was one of four people drafting and I did and I passed on him on purpose. There are a ton of DTs in this draft and you can get one in the second.

What you can't get in my opinion is Luther Burden and I think he's going to be a difference maker. I admit having a wide receiver fetish though.


I was going to trade up to 14 for Tetairoa McMillian but a guy who didn't do his research did that for the Cardinals.
Unless Veech was just doing propaganda during his press conference, he indicated that Edge and RB's were loaded but indicated DT there were only a handful. I would not be surprised if he wants more of a all around DT early not just a space eater you can get later. Also would not be surprised of he is not looking at 2 this draft.
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Old 04-18-2025, 02:04 PM   #4
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I like Nolen but I don't think he's some magical unicorn that we have to take him over other guys.

I do think Burden has sleeper star potential.
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Old 04-18-2025, 02:05 PM   #5
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I think they both have star potential. You're underrating Nolen's upside a little.
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Old 04-18-2025, 02:09 PM   #6
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Chiefs going to move up in the draft and take one of the top LT.
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Old 04-18-2025, 02:13 PM   #7
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Chiefs going to move up in the draft and take one of the top LT.
yeah I’m not so sure about that because I don’t really like any tackle in this entire draft
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Old 04-18-2025, 02:19 PM   #8
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I think all the LT (Simmons) stuff is smoke....
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Old 04-18-2025, 02:22 PM   #9
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I think all the LT (Simmons) stuff is smoke....

The rumors are so overt, unlike the ninja skills of silence of the Mahomes trade up.
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Old 04-18-2025, 11:27 PM   #10
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yeah I’m not so sure about that because I don’t really like any tackle in this entire draft
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Old 04-18-2025, 02:18 PM   #11
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Where do we need upgrades or replacements or rotational guys? I think DT, LT, RB, and maybe one could argue LG, CB.

I'd be a little surprised with an LT since we've got a lot of developmental guys in the hopper and an immediate solution in place.

I'd be a little surprised at a RB in Round 1 (though not shocked if a top guy falls to us).

I'd be surprised at a LG in Round 1 just because guards don't usually go in Round 1.

There seems to be a lot of DT talent available so I could see them waiting until Rounds 2 or 3 there.

I don't see us taking a guy with a bad reputation given the Rashee problem.

My guess will be a bit out of left field. I'm going to go with Benjamin Morrison, CB, Notre Dame.

My backup choices will be Trey Amos and Shavon Revel, both CBs.

(Edit: it looks like Morrison is getting mocked lower each week, so maybe I'll change my selection to Trey Amos instead.)

I think getting a top CB will let them move McDuffie back into the slot, and will also give us more depth. We saw what happened when Watson went down for a while last year.
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Old 04-18-2025, 02:23 PM   #12
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I dived a little more into tackles. I wouldn’t mind Wyatt milum third round(he grades as the best pass blocker in this class in some charts). Derrick Harmon first round.(by far most disruptive dt pass rushing. Best running back available second round.
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Old 04-18-2025, 02:38 PM   #14
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If jeanty somehow fell to mid to late teens that’s a player I’d be on the phone for. No one else really
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Old 04-18-2025, 03:21 PM   #15
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If jeanty somehow fell to mid to late teens that’s a player I’d be on the phone for. No one else really


I dunno.... Jeanty looked so small - and was busted up and arm tackled so often when Boise State played Penn State - which has NFL sized players... it made me look at him completely differently. I dunno that he isn't a scat back.
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