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Old 01-13-2009, 06:35 PM   Topic Starter
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Dorsey in the 3-4.
Is it even remotely possible?

A couple speculations out there are that Pioli wants to gravitate towards the 3-4 with our defense.

I think whatever determinations you make about our defense have to be tied into what Dorsey, by far our most expensive defensive player (Surtain about to be released), is capable of.

I think it's pretty clear Dorsey's not NT material, but might he get by as a 3-4 DE?

What are your thoughts?
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:37 PM   #2
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:37 PM   #3
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He isnt a 3-4 player at all.
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:44 PM   #4
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This has been troubling me all day and I've come up with nothing. He would be undersized at any 3-4 line spot.

Seems like Spags and Schwartz are 4-3 guys anyway.
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Old 01-13-2009, 08:29 PM   #5
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This has been troubling me all day and I've come up with nothing. He would be undersized at any 3-4 line spot.

Seems like Spags and Schwartz are 4-3 guys anyway.
exactly what i was thinking.... if spag is actually coming, i'm pretty damn sure we'll be 4-3 (which i think would be for the best)
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:38 PM   #6
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:38 PM   #7
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sure, he's athletic enough and without this cluster**** of a coaching staff i think he'll improve greatly no matter what scheme we're in
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:41 PM   #8
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sure, he's athletic enough and without this cluster**** of a coaching staff i think he'll improve greatly no matter what scheme we're in
That's my point of view as well.

But I think it's just such a bad fit.

There aren't a lot of 4-3 DTs that have made a successful transition to 3-4 DE.
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My thoughts are that I'm tired of hearing people complain because we don't have the talent for a 3-4.

Newsflash: we don't have the talent for a 4-3 either. We just put up a record setting suck for sacks. And Dorsey can suck in a 3-4 just as much as he sucked in a 4-3...
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:46 PM   #10
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My thoughts are that I'm tired of hearing people complain because we don't have the talent for a 3-4.

Newsflash: we don't have the talent for a 4-3 either. We just put up a record setting suck for sacks. And Dorsey can suck in a 3-4 just as much as he sucked in a 4-3...
he showed flashes as a rookie. I expect the 'dorsey is a bust!' shit from ****ing n00bs and morons. you aren't either, brad. give the kid a chance--the only stat he didn't beat warren sapp in (comparing rookie stats) was sacks (sapp had three to dorsey's 1)... and take in the fact, for one moment, that sapp had 1) better coaching, 2) better talent surrounding him, 3) wasn't playing out of position.

dorsey will be a beast in a few years. to say bust right now is purely asinine.
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he showed flashes as a rookie. I expect the 'dorsey is a bust!' shit from ****ing n00bs and morons. you aren't either, brad. give the kid a chance--the only stat he didn't beat warren sapp in (comparing rookie stats) was sacks (sapp had three to dorsey's 2)... and take in the fact, for one moment, that sapp had 1) better coaching, 2) better talent surrounding him, 3) wasn't playing out of position.

dorsey will be a beast in a few years. to say bust right now is purely asinine.
I didn't say he was a bust, I said he sucked.
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I didn't say he was a bust, I said he sucked.
which, at this point of his career, is the same goddamned thing. damn, brad--you must really be taking gun's future demise badly.
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which, at this point of his career, is the same goddamned thing.
No it's not. A lot of players suck in their rookie years and go on and have good careers.
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which, at this point of his career, is the same goddamned thing. damn, brad--you must really be taking gun's future demise badly.
Gun made his own bed. Time to go.

I wouldn't call any player a bust after just 1 year. Dorsey did not have a good year. Period.

I also wouldn't say we should avoid doing (possibly) what our new HC and GM want to do because we have a first round pick who hasn't proven anything yet.
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My thoughts are that I'm tired of hearing people complain because we don't have the talent for a 3-4.

Newsflash: we don't have the talent for a 4-3 either. We just put up a record setting suck for sacks. And Dorsey can suck in a 3-4 just as much as he sucked in a 4-3...
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