Bills defensive plan vs the Chiefs

[O.city]

Josh Allen? Patrick Mahomes? Forget about them. Leslie Frazier had the pen last & won the latest chapter of this rivalry.

With his “spy games”, he unleashed Von Miller & disrupted the KC passing game with man coverage while still protecting his DBs. https://t.co/N9QIqKzFQ2

— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) October 18, 2022

Not sure if anyone has the athletic or not but here's a cool article breaking down the Bills game plan.

Basically, they had Miller now and didn't last year and he allows this defensive gameplan to work

[Hammock Parties]

chiefs shot themselves in the foot and left 6 points on the field

**** leslie

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

chiefs shot themselves in the foot and left 6 points on the field

**** leslie

yeah, also this.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

chiefs shot themselves in the foot and left 6 points on the field

**** leslie

Yep, if Patrick throws the ball away and Butker goes 3/3 instead of 1/2, it's a different game completely.

People act like the Chiefs got throttled by David and this is this chink in Goliath's armor or something.

**** Frazier.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Yep, if Patrick's 2TDs counted and Butker goes 3/3 instead of 1/2, it's a different game completely.

People act like the Chiefs got throttled by David and this is this chink in Goliath's armor or something.

**** Frazier.

FYP

[RedinTexas]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

chiefs shot themselves in the foot and left 6 points on the field

**** leslie

Shooting yourself in the foot is part of the game. The interception in the end zone was a bad throw by Mahomes under pressure. The Bills put us into that situation and forced it to happen. You have to credit them for the pressure.

We made mistakes, but they're part of the game. The good news is that we can recover from that loss and be in a position to win it all. We get players back on defense that were unavailable for that game. We learned a lot about how they would/will go about trying to score on us and stop us from scoring.

They beat us worse last year and we made them pay in the playoffs. That loss wasn't a good thing to happen, but nowhere near as big of a loss as if it had happened in the playoffs. I'm not worried about it at all.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by RedinTexas

Shooting yourself in the foot is part of the game. The interception in the end zone was a bad throw by Mahomes under pressure. The Bills put us into that situation and forced it to happen. You have to credit them for the pressure.

We made mistakes, but they're part of the game. The good news is that we can recover from that loss and be in a position to win it all. We get players back on defense that were unavailable for that game. We learned a lot about how they would/will go about trying to score on us and stop us from scoring.

They beat us worse last year and we made them pay in the playoffs. That loss wasn't a good thing to happen, but nowhere near as big of a loss as if it had happened in the playoffs. I'm not worried about it at all.

Bullshit. I'd give them credit if the deserved it...they dont

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by RedinTexas

Shooting yourself in the foot is part of the game. The interception in the end zone was a bad throw by Mahomes under pressure. The Bills put us into that situation and forced it to happen. You have to credit them for the pressure.

bullshit...mahomes intentionally ran out of the pocket to create an ad-lib situation...he's scored on that play 100 times in his career

if skyy moore doesn't run into MVS (unforced error) it's 6 points, because sky moore's guy made the pick

that defense didn't stop the chiefs, the chiefs stopped the chiefs, just like the colts game

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by RedinTexas

Shooting yourself in the foot is part of the game. The interception in the end zone was a bad throw by Mahomes under pressure. The Bills put us into that situation and forced it to happen. You have to credit them for the pressure.

We made mistakes, but they're part of the game. The good news is that we can recover from that loss and be in a position to win it all. We get players back on defense that were unavailable for that game. We learned a lot about how they would/will go about trying to score on us and stop us from scoring.

They beat us worse last year and we made them pay in the playoffs. That loss wasn't a good thing to happen, but nowhere near as big of a loss as if it had happened in the playoffs. I'm not worried about it at all.

Yeah, I don't really get the defensiveness. This is 3 years and 5 games in the making for the Bills with their main priority being to beat the Chiefs.... and while they still just barely made that happen, they've obviously thrown a lot of money and effort into making it happen, which seems like what the article is about to some extent.

Of course, that doesn't mean a quarter of what ESPN hot takes says about the game... Josh Allen isn't suddenly better than Mahomes, the Bills don't suddenly have the Chiefs' number and certainly aren't the CLEAR favorite to win when it matters...... but we can all be big boys and girls and tip our cap for what's it's worth. They won, and hope to meet them again when it really matters.

[Chiefs2022]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

chiefs shot themselves in the foot and left 6 points on the field

**** leslie

The Bills did as well though, fumbling on their own 12 yard line and I think they failed another time in the rednzone which isn't like them. Both teams messed up a few times when they usually don't.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Chiefs2022

The Bills did as well though, fumbling on their own 12 yard line and I think they failed another time in the rednzone which isn't like them. Both teams messed up a few times when they usually don't.

Actually, it is. Going into the game, BUF was only scoring TDs ≈55% of the time we got into the RZ. It was a weakness of their offense that was discussed prior to the game.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Actually, it is. Going into the game, BUF was only scoring TDs ≈55% of the time we got into the RZ. It was a weakness of their offense that was discussed prior to the game.

Precisely what I was going to say.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Precisely what I was going to say.

Sorry about that. I'll make sure I go out for a smoke before posting something like that in the future.

[Why Not?]

If you have a stud pass rusher going up against our tackles, it is pretty easy to deploy any game plan you want. If Nick Bosa is back this week, expect a similar type game plan. If that's the case, this game will probably be closer than many here expect. Not sure how people still don't get by now that the game is won in the trenches.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

If you have a stud pass rusher going up against our tackles, it is pretty easy to deploy any game plan you want. If Nick Bosa is back this week, expect a similar type game plan. If that's the case, this game will probably be closer than many here expect. Not sure how people still don't get by now that the game is won in the trenches.

Exactly.

Our tackles are pretty close to mediocre when at full strength...and they're both playing hurt and at a subpar level.

Some other Bosa gave us a lot of trouble in a Super Bowl...

The next year we couldn't handle Tampa's D line.

I mean, the first Chargers game was close for a lot of reasons, but them not letting Mahomes get comfy is probably the biggest.

It's never been a secret that the key to stopping a great QB falls on the pass rush; even Joe Montana couldn't get it done when he was getting the stuffing beaten out of him while attempting to complete passes.

That's why Bill Walsh didn't like the shotgun - it meant that the defense could tee off on the QB. That's why Walsh always had those Roger Craig/Ricky Watters types that could catch AND run; they were the '3rd WR' in his offense out of the flat back formations. If they went I, they were split I formation, depending on the matchups they were trying to exploit...

But keeping Mahomes in the shotgun for 75% of the offensive snaps is part of the problem at this point. The line isn't a great pass blocking line, and defenses are teeing off against us because we don't run, and when we do, it's usually out of the shotun 7 yards deep after a delay, so they can just stop the RB on the way to the QB if the QB hands off on an RPO...