Chiefs Worrisome things: Offensive Line - Page 5

Hoover · 05-11-2014, 07:55 AM

I'm kind of excited about the Chiefs OLine. I'm glad its young. I'm glad we don't have a bunch of guys on their way out of the league starting.

Our LT was the first pick int he draft. I think having a year under his belt will make a big difference. Our RT was a project, and there is no reason to think he can't get it done.

The only reason we have a hole at guard is because Jon Aasomoah didn't really develop into the player we thought he would be. That said, he still got a hell of a pay day. I'm glad we didn't step up and play big money to he or Schwarz. When you look at who this team needs to pay, those two guards were not a priority.

Of all the bitching about Pioli, the one thing I really liked about his is that he always used a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a lineman. I think that's a smart strategy.

jd1020 · 05-11-2014, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

I'm glad we didn't step up and play big money to he or Schwarz.

Big money to Schwartz? 4 years - $16mil. How on earth would they have been able to swing such a gigantic contract?!

chiefzilla1501 · 05-11-2014, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Big money to Schwartz? 4 years - $16mil. How on earth would they have been able to swing such a gigantic contract?!

You know how many players on Denver's roster were paid $4M or more going into this year? 4.

These small contracts add up.

Hoover · 05-11-2014, 08:39 AM

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You know how many players on Denver's roster were paid $4M or more going into this year? 4.

These small contracts add up.

Exactly. You start throwing around 4 million here and 4 million a year here and the next thing you know signing guys like Houston, Poe, and Berry become difficult.

This isn't baseball.

Teams have to be creative where they spend money. Look at the Seahawks and 49ers, they are able to build impressive teams because they don't have pay big money to their QB's YET. This is why building an offensive live through the draft is smart. Teams need rookie contracts to be able to pay their star players.

jd1020 · 05-11-2014, 08:44 AM

Schwartz would have been the straw that broke the camels back, yet Joe Mays...

Hoover · 05-11-2014, 08:32 AM

4 million a year

TEX · 05-11-2014, 09:13 AM

Everyone concerned about the KC O-Line is justified in their thinking. Far too many questions to expect all to work out. It did not have to be that way. Its going to be the biggest reason for the step backwards this season.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 05-11-2014, 09:25 AM

Good to see we already have the scapegoat determined in the event this team only wins 6-7 games.

htismaqe · 05-11-2014, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Good to see we already have the scapegoat determined in the event this team only wins 6-7 games.

Shit, we identified that scapegoat in late February of LAST offseason.

CallMeSquidwad · 05-11-2014, 09:33 AM

I'm waiting for week 5 when all of you tools flip flop and fall in love with our o line.

OldSchool · 05-11-2014, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CallMeSquidwad

I'm waiting for week 5 when all of you tools flip flop and fall in love with our o line.

Hope that happens, but I'm not holding my breath.

**RealSNR** · 05-11-2014, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CallMeSquidwad

I'm waiting for week 5 when all of you tools flip flop and fall in love with our o line.

You mean if it surpasses our expectations then we'll be impressed?

What giant tools we all are!

Hoover · 05-11-2014, 11:27 AM

I think the rookie contracts have changed the face of the NFL.

High dollar positions like QB, OT, OG, and pass rushers, are at a premium early in the draft because they would break the bank if you wanted to sign a stud in free agency. The same goes if you have a good player who's at the end of his contract. Just look at Oakland, they let Houston walk and then drafted Mack. Smart move, Mack is obviously younger, more talented, and cheeper. Houston's cap hit this year is over 5m, and increases to 7m for the following 3 years, and the final season is 9m.

mcaj22 · 05-11-2014, 01:13 PM

the thing is there's no continuity with this line

next year we could (will) have a new center. They can't afford to keep Hudson no different than they couldnt keep Asamoah or Schwartz

following year Stephenson will be overpaid in FA.

Jeff Allen is also gone in that span

So in the next 2 years we could (will) have a new center, new starting tackle and a new LG. The only guy really under control is Fisher lol.

This is the problem with the Chiefs being so close to the cap, they wont be able to afford any of these guys because there will be more important players on the roster to spend money on. The lines going to look completely different in 2 years again.

jspchief · 05-11-2014, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

the thing is there's no continuity with this line

next year we could (will) have a new center. They can't afford to keep Hudson no different than they couldnt keep Asamoah or Schwartz

following year Stephenson will be overpaid in FA.

Jeff Allen is also gone in that span

So in the next 2 years we could (will) have a new center, new starting tackle and a new LG. The only guy really under control is Fisher lol.

This is the problem with the Chiefs being so close to the cap, they wont be able to afford any of these guys because there will be more important players on the roster to spend money on. The lines going to look completely different in 2 years again.

Good thing we drafted their replacements the last 2 years.

05-11-2014, 07:55 AM	#1
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-2191821	I'm kind of excited about the Chiefs OLine. I'm glad its young. I'm glad we don't have a bunch of guys on their way out of the league starting. Our LT was the first pick int he draft. I think having a year under his belt will make a big difference. Our RT was a project, and there is no reason to think he can't get it done. The only reason we have a hole at guard is because Jon Aasomoah didn't really develop into the player we thought he would be. That said, he still got a hell of a pay day. I'm glad we didn't step up and play big money to he or Schwarz. When you look at who this team needs to pay, those two guards were not a priority. Of all the bitching about Pioli, the one thing I really liked about his is that he always used a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a lineman. I think that's a smart strategy.
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Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-2191821	I think the rookie contracts have changed the face of the NFL. High dollar positions like QB, OT, OG, and pass rushers, are at a premium early in the draft because they would break the bank if you wanted to sign a stud in free agency. The same goes if you have a good player who's at the end of his contract. Just look at Oakland, they let Houston walk and then drafted Mack. Smart move, Mack is obviously younger, more talented, and cheeper. Houston's cap hit this year is over 5m, and increases to 7m for the following 3 years, and the final season is 9m.
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05-11-2014, 01:13 PM	#14
mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	the thing is there's no continuity with this line next year we could (will) have a new center. They can't afford to keep Hudson no different than they couldnt keep Asamoah or Schwartz following year Stephenson will be overpaid in FA. Jeff Allen is also gone in that span So in the next 2 years we could (will) have a new center, new starting tackle and a new LG. The only guy really under control is Fisher lol. This is the problem with the Chiefs being so close to the cap, they wont be able to afford any of these guys because there will be more important players on the roster to spend money on. The lines going to look completely different in 2 years again.
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