Royals Should we start Dyson in game 3 - Page 10

BigCatDaddy · 10-23-2014, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Holland is gonna get like a 5M raise, Hosmer 2M, Cain 3M, Dyson 1.5M, Escobar 2M, Moose 2M, Herrera 2M, Davis 3M

so yep

Glass is gonna have to give Dayton 100-110 to play with, and much deserved, after what we've done this year...we're gonna sell more season tickets, and we certainly have a team built for another deep playoff run which is pure profit for the Royals as well

and 2019 is gonna be a big, big, big payday for Glass...so we can operate in the red while our core is still together for a few years

Petro covered this on the radio before. After all raises kick in the payroll will be 80-85 million in 15 before resigning any FA.

Prison Bitch · 10-23-2014, 10:57 PM

You said arb, and besides you can take off another 8M for Hoch ad Chen if we are now talking about Infante and Guthrie

Hootie · 10-23-2014, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

You said arb, and besides you can take off another 8M for Hoch ad Chen if we are now talking about Infante and Guthrie

Probably try and resign Hoch.

We'll probably end up with about $5M to play with if we want to keep our payroll the same as 2014.

IMO, Glass should approve Dayton a spending limit of $110M for 2015. Dayton should use it responsibly, and not simply use it to use it, though.

Hootie · 10-23-2014, 10:58 PM

Davis on the books for 4.8 this year. So 2.2M raise to be exact.

penbrook · 10-23-2014, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Davis on the books for 4.8 this year. So 2.2M raise to be exact.

Than he has a 7 mil club option after the World Series is up

BigCatDaddy · 10-23-2014, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook

Than he has a 7 mil club option after the World Series is up

You mean 4.8+2.2=7?

Hootie · 10-23-2014, 10:59 PM

Duffy is another guy who will get a healthy raise via arbitration.

Prison Bitch · 10-23-2014, 11:00 PM

Hoz and moose are getting 4M in raises after terrible seasons? Ill have to see that. It's possible but I doubt it.

Then again you said Willingham =8M so.

Hootie · 10-23-2014, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Hoz and moose are getting 4M in raises after terrible seasons? Ill have to see that. It's possible but I doubt it.

Then again you said Willingham =8M so.

Willingham is worth about $8M to a team that wants him. It's not his fault we decided to not use him. Career .825 OPS guy. Gotta pass a physical first, though.

And yes, Hos and Moose will get raises after potentially leading a team to a World Series.

Hos is a Super 2 already making $3.6M. He'll get bumped up to 5 or 6.

Moose will get a healthy raise. He's a starting 3rd baseman and he made a huge name for himself in the postseason. He's gonna ask for X, we're gonna counter with X, and odds are his agent and Dayton will find a common ground and avoid arbitration all together. But he's going to make probably around $2.5M, I'd have to think.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-23-2014, 11:01 PM

You all also got an additional six+ sellout dates at home with massive concession sales. That adds a healthy amount to the bottom line.

Hootie · 10-23-2014, 11:05 PM

you gotta think Glass finally gets what winning baseball means to Kansas City

I'm not saying he's going to say, "go wild, Dayton!"

but $110M cap is reasonable

two things...

his ROI for the Royals is incredible

2019 isn't that far away

and we're gonna sell a ton of tickets next year...

I bet we eclipse $100M, for sure

tk13 · 10-23-2014, 11:19 PM

I know I'm probably alone in this, but even at that payroll level... I don't care if they get to 110 just for the sake of getting to 110. I think the overall payroll number is way overrated, at least when you're comparing it to a 90 million payroll. The important thing is to spend the money wisely and give yourself a chance to sign guys you've developed. I don't want to cheap out later because we wanted to sign Jose Guillen now just to say "Oh look! Glass is spending money!"

Just like it was this year... the most important thing is developing our own starting pitching. I'm sure Dayton will probably look for another pitcher to replace Shields, and hopefully guys will be interested in signing here without having to offer 10-15% more money than everyone else. Especially with this defense.

**Saul Good** · 10-24-2014, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13

I know I'm probably alone in this, but even at that payroll level... I don't care if they get to 110 just for the sake of getting to 110. I think the overall payroll number is way overrated, at least when you're comparing it to a 90 million payroll. The important thing is to spend the money wisely and give yourself a chance to sign guys you've developed. I don't want to cheap out later because we wanted to sign Jose Guillen now just to say "Oh look! Glass is spending money!"

Just like it was this year... the most important thing is developing our own starting pitching. I'm sure Dayton will probably look for another pitcher to replace Shields, and hopefully guys will be interested in signing here without having to offer 10-15% more money than everyone else. Especially with this defense.

The Royals have an incredibly small amount of wasted payroll this year. Hochevar is the glaring exception, but nearly of all of our payroll is being used on the field and providing value. Dayton certainly appears to have spent wisely.

**BigRedChief** · 10-24-2014, 06:15 AM

That RF corner is a bitch to field in. If you watched the NLCS you saw the tricks it plays on an OF. Even Pence who has been there for two years blew it.

You will save more runs than Aoki will ever score offensively. Go for the defense. Dyson in CF and put your best OF in RF, Cain.

Fairplay · 10-24-2014, 09:10 AM

I was very surprised to learn that the Cardinals salary cap is 107 Million that's cheap for getting to the World Series as many times as they have done.

1 Los Angeles Dodgers 238,841,005
2 New York Yankees 209,416,323
3 Philadelphia Phillies 175,996,256
4 Detroit Tigers 161,023,527
5 Boston Red Sox 154,512,396
6 San Francisco Giants 147,738,612
7 Texas Rangers 128,907,134
8 Toronto Blue Jays 128,409,900
9 Los Angeles Angels 127,062,000
10 Washington Nationals 125,615,337
11 Cincinnati Reds 112,378,772
12 Arizona Diamondbacks 108,073,833
13 Milwaukee Brewers 107,512,839
14 St. Louis Cardinals 107,502,360
15 Atlanta Braves 107,373,674
16 Baltimore Orioles 101,334,943
17 Colorado Rockies 92,379,071
18 Kansas City Royals 90,994,500

10-23-2014, 10:57 PM	#2
Prison Bitch Rabbi Goldmann Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $5450159	You said arb, and besides you can take off another 8M for Hoch ad Chen if we are now talking about Infante and Guthrie
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10-23-2014, 10:58 PM	#4
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Davis on the books for 4.8 this year. So 2.2M raise to be exact.
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10-23-2014, 10:59 PM	#7
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Duffy is another guy who will get a healthy raise via arbitration.
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10-23-2014, 11:00 PM	#8
Prison Bitch Rabbi Goldmann Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $5450159	Hoz and moose are getting 4M in raises after terrible seasons? Ill have to see that. It's possible but I doubt it. Then again you said Willingham =8M so.
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10-23-2014, 11:01 PM	#10
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10-23-2014, 11:05 PM	#11
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	you gotta think Glass finally gets what winning baseball means to Kansas City I'm not saying he's going to say, "go wild, Dayton!" but $110M cap is reasonable two things... his ROI for the Royals is incredible 2019 isn't that far away and we're gonna sell a ton of tickets next year... I bet we eclipse $100M, for sure
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10-23-2014, 11:19 PM	#12
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1937500	I know I'm probably alone in this, but even at that payroll level... I don't care if they get to 110 just for the sake of getting to 110. I think the overall payroll number is way overrated, at least when you're comparing it to a 90 million payroll. The important thing is to spend the money wisely and give yourself a chance to sign guys you've developed. I don't want to cheap out later because we wanted to sign Jose Guillen now just to say "Oh look! Glass is spending money!" Just like it was this year... the most important thing is developing our own starting pitching. I'm sure Dayton will probably look for another pitcher to replace Shields, and hopefully guys will be interested in signing here without having to offer 10-15% more money than everyone else. Especially with this defense.
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10-24-2014, 06:15 AM	#14
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-831038 VARSITY	That RF corner is a bitch to field in. If you watched the NLCS you saw the tricks it plays on an OF. Even Pence who has been there for two years blew it. You will save more runs than Aoki will ever score offensively. Go for the defense. Dyson in CF and put your best OF in RF, Cain. __________________ Mahomes is not a game manager. Release the Kraken.
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10-24-2014, 09:10 AM	#15
Fairplay A certain set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: texas Casino cash: $10026683 VARSITY	I was very surprised to learn that the Cardinals salary cap is 107 Million that's cheap for getting to the World Series as many times as they have done. 1 Los Angeles Dodgers 238,841,005 2 New York Yankees 209,416,323 3 Philadelphia Phillies 175,996,256 4 Detroit Tigers 161,023,527 5 Boston Red Sox 154,512,396 6 San Francisco Giants 147,738,612 7 Texas Rangers 128,907,134 8 Toronto Blue Jays 128,409,900 9 Los Angeles Angels 127,062,000 10 Washington Nationals 125,615,337 11 Cincinnati Reds 112,378,772 12 Arizona Diamondbacks 108,073,833 13 Milwaukee Brewers 107,512,839 14 St. Louis Cardinals 107,502,360 15 Atlanta Braves 107,373,674 16 Baltimore Orioles 101,334,943 17 Colorado Rockies 92,379,071 18 Kansas City Royals 90,994,500
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