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Old 12-21-2014, 05:28 PM   #1
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Oh for ****'s sake, the corner just made a great play. He gets paid too, you know.
Everyone talks about Bowe and how it can not get open and it is not the case. I watched Bowe specifically in the red zone and saw him running wide open by NFL standards and AS didn't even look his way. One was on the play where DAT got blown up. Five Steerlers were within five yards of that pass and were looking for that play. Another was early and AS just threw a rocket into the seats with no pressure.
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Old 12-21-2014, 06:17 PM   #2
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Bowe didn't drop the ball. It was a great play by their corner to punch it out. I'm not mad at Bowe for that play.
Exactly.

The other team's players play the game too
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Old 12-21-2014, 04:42 PM   #3
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#9 is why you need to take a shot with a QB. If the goal is to win a Super Bowl, then you go after a QB who has the physical talent to win a Super Bowl.

How is this team worse off in the long run with a drafted QB that busted? The point of drafting those guys is that they offered a potential skill set that, if developed, would have given the Chiefs a difference maker at QB. Instead, the management and fanbase only cares about a player's floor. Alex Smith's floor is two inches below his ceiling and rests in the territory of thoroughly mediocre.

Fans have bought into organizational doublespeak. The GM cares more about keeping his job than winning a Super Bowl, and if fans tolerate 7-9 win seasons in perpetuity, he'll keep his job for two decades. It's in the GM's best financial interest to pick players that will help him keep gettin dem checks rather than players that could bring a championship to the team but risk him losing his job.

I guess the difference between me and the average fan is that I see no meaningful difference between 8-8 and 2-14 over the course of a season.
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Old 12-21-2014, 04:45 PM   #4
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I guess the difference between me and the average fan is that I see no meaningful difference between 8-8 and 2-14 over the course of a season.
You get better draft picks at 2-14. 8-8 seasons are why the Chiefs haven't sniffed a Super Bowl in 45 years.
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Old 12-21-2014, 04:48 PM   #5
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You get better draft picks at 2-14. 8-8 seasons are why the Chiefs haven't sniffed a Super Bowl in 45 years.
That's why I didn't say overall. Over the course of a season, there is no meaningful difference. Over the course of an offseason it is paramount to end up with a high pick.

The worst thing you can be in the NFL or NBA is .500.
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Old 12-21-2014, 04:46 PM   #6
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Well, that's my rant for today. It's hard to be Mr. Jolly Pants when your team's season just went down in flames.
For me the above mentioned defining moment came at Oakland. It was then that I KNEW this Chiefs team was like all the other pretenders. Like you said, you don't lose to TENN & OAK and make the playoffs. As I said, my hopes were dashed in Oakland so today was an easy loss to take as I'm already over the Chiefs this year with the season not being over. Kind of like getting over your psycho girlfriend while you're still with her - it's VERY EASY to dump her on your terms - and that's what I did after the Oakland loss.

In any case, I'm with you on all except Smith. I agree to a point, but I believe the Chiefs can win with him IF they surround him with a top notch OL and some good WR's. You're right, Smith is not going to put a team on his back and carry it. He needs a good supporting cast. The Chiefs knew they were going to go with Smith and didn't upgrade the OL or WR's this past off season and that's what made it so frustrating, as I KNEW the product on the field would be exactly what it is. Front office - not good enough. You cant go with JAGS if your QB is one too...

In any case, great read as always and spot on!
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Old 12-21-2014, 04:48 PM   #7
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That Pestilence dude is a Pest .... Fantastic as always George ... Unfortunataley #9 as mentioned ..... is a moot point and Alex Smith is the Kansas City Chiefs QB for more years than care to know
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Old 12-21-2014, 05:08 PM   #8
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That Pestilence dude is a Pest .... Fantastic as always George ... Unfortunataley #9 as mentioned ..... is a moot point and Alex Smith is the Kansas City Chiefs QB for more years than care to know
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Old 12-21-2014, 04:49 PM   #9
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Rookie or not, Santos has to do a better job than that on an onsides kick. They've been practicing the freaking play for the last 6 months. That was totally unacceptable.
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Old 12-21-2014, 04:54 PM   #10
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Rookie or not, Santos has to do a better job than that on an onsides kick. They've been practicing the freaking play for the last 6 months. That was totally unacceptable.
That kick was an AIDS Rave party manifested in an open sore on a crippled genetalia

It was awful
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Old 12-21-2014, 04:53 PM   #11
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Old 12-21-2014, 04:55 PM   #12
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Old 12-21-2014, 05:27 PM   #13
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Good read man.

I can't say that I'm disappointed in the D. Rape went 18/25 220 1TD. On the ground they went 68 1TD, 72 if you take out Rapes Sack. There was only one sack, but there was respectable pressure. If you tell me we could hold the Steelers to 20 points, 368 total yards, that's good enough to win. D, and Sutton came to play. Yeah, Poe, Hali, Houston could have racked up bigger stats, but overall D got it done. 12 points wins you not a ****ing thing in the 2014 NFL.

I can't agree about Charles. How many truly meaningful games has he played in? You can say the Indy crazy concussion game, and the slaughter at Baltimore Haley's first year. I can't remember if he got any carries in the Herm abortion, but if he did, they were minimal.

Most of the other need-to-win games, were in the regular season after the team has shit it's pants and probably didn't have to be need-to-win. Whereas he has been transcendent in many of his other regular season games that were important.

It is a ****ing travesty that Charles has been a Chief. Put Charles on a decent team and it would be just unfair. Just flat out unfair. He is a generational talent, and we are just a couple years away from ****ing off his career.

I'm on the fence about Bowe. He shouldn't be too old. Maybe he's always been a jumpball kind of guy, and Smith won't throw those. I know he's better than this year's stats, but I doubt that he's as good as his paycheck. It should be noted, though, that he blocks like a bulldozer.

Right there with you with Smith, Reid, OL - namely that joke of an overall first round pick. Really good writeup overall.

Simple fact is that the good teams hold serve at home and win the ones they should win. Then you can talk about going and getting good wins. The Seattle and NE wins were great, but we should have won Titans, Faid, and Donks at home on 10 days. We win the ones we should, we are in.
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Old 12-21-2014, 05:34 PM   #14
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Look at just today's game… a virtual playoff game and Charles was awful. He choked… he failed to deliver as a franchise player.

Killer fumble? Check
Huge dropped pass on the final key drive? Check
Failing to capitalize on a huge play opportunity early in the game by failing to make ONE defender miss and getting ankle tackled for a minimal gain? Check

Charles is the Chiefs franchise player and is getting paid like one as well.

He no-showed in the Chiefs biggest game of the season to-date.
I think him not showing up today had a lot more to do with external factors than himself.

Our offense just sucks all around. The offensive line doesn't open up any holes without serious misdirection, Reid doesn't stick with the ground game to save his dick, and Alex's unwillingness to throw the ball down the field effectively forces us to face 8 man fronts week in and week out.

He had a fumble today, yeah. He fumbles every once in a while, yeah. The thing is, and why I'm so critical of Smith and not of the greatest playmaker this franchise has ever witnessed, Jamaal's production FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRR outweighs his gaffes. You say he's lost 3 fumbles all year? I say he's squeaked out at least 400 yards and 5 or so TDs that the average back would have had no prayer in making. Look no further than this ****ing team. Knile is averaging what now? It's got to be dangerously close to 2.9 YPC. Jamaal is averaging 5 despite not being given enough carries to find any kind of rhythm.

He's our best and most consistent player and has been since he took the starting spot back in 2009. He's played big in big games and he's done it often. He had, probably, his best game of the season against the Seahawks not long ago. He had 3 TDs against the Patriots. He does play well in big games.
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Old 12-21-2014, 05:46 PM   #15
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I think him not showing up today had a lot more to do with external factors than himself.

Our offense just sucks all around. The offensive line doesn't open up any holes without serious misdirection, Reid doesn't stick with the ground game to save his dick, and Alex's unwillingness to throw the ball down the field effectively forces us to face 8 man fronts week in and week out.

He had a fumble today, yeah. He fumbles every once in a while, yeah. The thing is, and why I'm so critical of Smith and not of the greatest playmaker this franchise has ever witnessed, Jamaal's production FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRR outweighs his gaffes. You say he's lost 3 fumbles all year? I say he's squeaked out at least 400 yards and 5 or so TDs that the average back would have had no prayer in making. Look no further than this ****ing team. Knile is averaging what now? It's got to be dangerously close to 2.9 YPC. Jamaal is averaging 5 despite not being given enough carries to find any kind of rhythm.

He's our best and most consistent player and has been since he took the starting spot back in 2009. He's played big in big games and he's done it often. He had, probably, his best game of the season against the Seahawks not long ago. He had 3 TDs against the Patriots. He does play well in big games.
Agreed with Virus here. Charles is the main focus for every defensive cordinator we face. Teams are selling out to stop him. Alex has a chance to get some respect and back up the defense up and he misses a wide upen wilson that could've been a easy seven. If Alex plays like a 68 mil like he should the oline looks better, Rb look better and a receivers are getting more balls, but alex keeps doing it to himself by dinking and dunking and drawing everything towards the line of scrimmage.
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