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Old 06-14-2015, 09:47 PM   #1
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Because he's been, at best, the 4th best DH in the AL this year, behind Cruz, Bautista, and A-Rod.
A) That's debatable. Cruz is the only one who has definitively been better than Morales throughout the season.
B) No one likes A-Rod.
C) Even if Morales is, in your opinion, only the fourth best DH in the league with a month until the All-Star Game, why does that mean he doesn't even deserve a "sniff," as the author of the previous post declared? Should only the top 3 choices of Hamas Jenkins and CoMoChief deserve to sniff the delicious scent of All-Star glory?
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Old 06-14-2015, 09:54 PM   #2
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A) That's debatable. Cruz is the only one who has definitively been better than Morales throughout the season.
B) No one likes A-Rod.
C) Even if Morales is, in your opinion, only the fourth best DH in the league with a month until the All-Star Game, why does that mean he doesn't even deserve a "sniff," as the author of the previous post declared? Should only the top 3 choices of Hamas Jenkins and CoMoChief deserve to sniff the delicious scent of All-Star glory?
It's not debatable at all. They have all been significantly more productive than Morales, as has Prince Fielder.
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Old 06-14-2015, 09:25 PM   #3
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Rios, Morales, Infante, dont deserve to even sniff an ASG appearance.

Moose and Hosmer don't deserve it over Donaldson and Cabrera.

However Gordon, Cain, Perez, Escobar are all players who are the best at their position. Who said that allstar selections were only warranted if you had the leagues best offensive numbers? There's no other LF or CF I'd rather have in the game playing defense than Gordon or Cain. Same goes w/ Escobar at SS or Perez behind the plate. Those guys are legit.

Davis and Holland are also deserving. That's 6 players who are deserving. I'm not sure what the Royals are supposed to do...hate the voting process not the players who are in it. If people don't like it get out and vote against them I guess. I'm sure they'll change the rules after this season.

I like to look at it as, the Royals get to play for their HFA in the World Series.
Royals fans shouldn't give any shits if a Royal deserves the ASG or not, just vote them all in already
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Old 06-14-2015, 08:49 PM   #4
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The butt hurt is strong in this one. News flash: the best players never seem to start the All-Star game besides the few elites: Trout, Harper, Stanton..
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Old 06-14-2015, 09:03 PM   #5
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I'll say this, it's about time.
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Old 06-14-2015, 09:55 PM   #6
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Old 06-14-2015, 10:16 PM   #7
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Old 06-14-2015, 11:17 PM   #8
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Prince Fielder is classified as a 1B in the All-Star voting, so that's a moot point.

The ONLY DH that is having a better season in the AL than Morales is Cruz. But they will both be there with Morales winning the vote and Cruz getting the selection. If so many people are so upset by Cruz not starting over Morales, then perhaps they should take matters into their own hands, get on-line and vote more?

I'm fairly certain the fanbases for 14 other AL clubs could unite and 'outvote' the Royals fanbase if they really wanted to. But it would seem they don't care enough to do just that, being as we are where we are.

It's more fun to sit around and bitch about it on-line and curse the system that allowed it to happen.
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Old 06-14-2015, 11:34 PM   #9
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Old 06-14-2015, 11:36 PM   #10
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Okay I'll admit, I've been a bit arrogant with respect to saying that Donaldson is better than Moustakas defensively. Statistically, they're actually pretty similar.

But there are certain things you can't put a stat on when evaluating players defensively. Like for example, who is the better athlete? Who has better mobility to move around from side to side and can cover more range around the corners and in between the bases? Who has greater leaping ability? Who can transition the ball better from glove to throwing hand? Who has better hip movement? Who is better at anticipation and timing plays or reacting where the ball is going to be or go?

You can't put stats on these things. But I'll just say this, Donaldson wasn't a natural third basemen. Remember, he was drafted as a catcher. Had he started as a natural at third base, he'd probably be more ahead defensively today.
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Old 06-14-2015, 11:47 PM   #11
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Okay I'll admit, I've been a bit arrogant with respect to saying that Donaldson is better than Moustakas defensively. Statistically, they're actually pretty similar.

But there are certain things you can't put a stat on when evaluating players defensively. Like for example, who is the better athlete? Who has better mobility to move around from side to side and can cover more range around the corners and in between the bases? Who has greater leaping ability? Who can transition the ball better from glove to throwing hand? Who has better hip movement? Who is better at anticipation and timing plays or reacting where the ball is going to be or go?

You can put stats on these things. But I'll just say this, Donaldson wasn't a natural third basemen. Remember, he was drafted as a catcher. Had he started as a natural at third base, he'd probably be more ahead defensively today.
The hip movement thing was pretty funny.
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Old 06-15-2015, 12:04 AM   #12
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The hip movement thing was pretty funny.
Who takes it up the a** better Donaldson or Moustakas? Probably Donaldson.
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Both Donaldson and Moose will be at the All-Star game regardless. They are the two best All-around 3B in the AL this year. Both deserve it.

Yes, Donaldson is having a better year statistically and 'deserves' to start over Moose, but that is not how the starters are determined. It is a fan vote. They determine the starters. And apparently the fans want to see Moose starting?

If that's not the case, I suggest all of Donaldson's fans (and anyone else, for that matter) get busy and start voting for him.
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Old 06-14-2015, 11:49 PM   #14
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Both Donaldson and Moose will be at the All-Star game regardless. They are the two best All-around 3B in the AL this year. Both deserve it.

Yes, Donaldson is having a better year statistically and 'deserves' to start over Moose, but that is not how the starters are determined. It is a fan vote. They determine the starters. And apparently the fans want to see Moose starting?

If that's not the case, I suggest all of Donaldson's fans (and anyone else, for that matter) get busy and start voting for him.
I'm going to be putting in lots and lots of votes for him.
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I'm going to be putting in lots and lots of votes for him.
Well, you just go right ahead and do that you infant.
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