What do the Chiefs do w/ the extra cap space?

[milkman]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

So you think Berry is better than Earl Thomas and Earl Thomas is only good/better because of coaching/scheme?

He was good in college and was a Texas prospect no different than Derrick Johnson or Jamaal Charles. And people think both of those guys are some of the best at their position. If you take off the Chiefs homer glasses, the guy is the better player.

When Earl Thomas first got to Seattle they were TERRIBLE and he carried that crappy defense his rookie season. He was playing next to a washed up Lawyer Milloy, an old Marcus Trufant, a bunch of other nobodies. Lofa Tatupu, Aaron Curry and David Hawthorne were the LBers. Absolute bums.

He was literally the only good player on defense for them that year.

No. I am not saying that Earl Thomas is only good because of coaching scheme.

I am saying that Berry, in a role that allowed him to take advantage of his ability and talent would be viewed as equal, at the least.

I would also say that if their roles were reversed, there is no way that Earl Thomas performs at the evel that Berry has.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by milkman

Really, Eric Berry and Earl Thomas might be illustrations of how coaching affects careers.

Thomas thrives in a scheme that puts him in position to succeed.
Berry excels in a scheme that puts him in position to fail.

Yep

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by milkman

Really, Eric Berry and Earl Thomas might be illustrations of how coaching affects careers.

Thomas thrives in a scheme that puts him in position to succeed.
Berry excels in a scheme that puts him in position to fail.

I don't think it puts him in a position to fail. His athleticism makes him an elite talent for a Ryan ss. Ed reed dominated in this role early in his career. If Berry has great football iq, he can be a big time difference maker. Either his football iq doesn't show because he's had to cover up for bad talent, or he's overrated. I hope it's the former of the 2 but we have to see it on the field.

As I've said before, in almost every Ryan defense right now, the better athlete at safety has been put at ss.

[Cmd'r&Chief]

Spend it on Weed for Dwayne Bowe

[BossChief]

Eric Berry was a playmaking safety his first 2 years at Tennessee and showed the ability to not only consistently take the ball away, but to also take it to the house on big returns.

He tested off the charts at the combine and earned his draft position by showing he could do everything.

The guy should have been used like Brian Dawkins was in Philly. By utilizing him the way the team has, they minimized his ability to impact the passing game.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Eric Berry was a playmaking safety his first 2 years at Tennessee and showed the ability to not only consistently take the ball away, but to also take it to the house on big returns.

He tested off the charts at the combine and earned his draft position by showing he could do everything.

The guy should have been used like Brian Dawkins was in Philly. By utilizing him the way the team has, they minimized his ability to impact the passing game.

And shortened his career as well.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

And shortened his career as well.

Not like a few of us called that one, either.

[BossChief]

Berrys freshman and Soph years at Tennesee:

158 tackles
10.5 TFLS
3 sacks
12 ints
465 int return yards
3 tds
22 pass defended
2 fumble recoveries
55 fumble return yards
1 forced fumble

He was just a turnover magnet and a scoring machine

Then Kiffen took over and made him a box safety

87 tavkles
7tfls
0 sacks
2 ints
7 yards
0tds
2 FR
1 ff

It's OBVIOUS which useage of Berry provided the most impact.

[The Franchise]

And then Romeo kept him there because they had Jon McGraw to play at FS and didn't want to start Langford at SS. The smart move would have been to keep Berry at FS and find a serviceable SS to plug in.

[BossChief]

Should have found a way to keep Pollard around as the box safety.