**** Official Pirates at Royals 7/20/15 GDT ****

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S

Yo looked good after he gave up 4 runs

yo got ****ed by his coaches...i don't mind playing a shift with no one on but a runner on 1st, play your normal defense..had we done that it's still 1-0

[Al Bundy]

Well Ventura got out of that only giving up 4.

[Hootie]

Ventura needs to throw 98-100 or he can't get people out

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Ventura needs to throw 98-100 or he can't get people out

How much of it is just regression to the mean, though?

His walk rate is down, K-rate is the same, he's inducing more groundballs, fewer line drives, and fewer flyballs. When he throws a ball outside of the zone and the batter swings, they make contact a lot less often than last year, but they hit stuff inside the zone more often.

His SIERA and xFIP is almost the same as last year, where he outperformed his peripherals.

I haven't seen him save for a few starts (once live). Is he really all that different of a pitcher? They all can't have the horseshoe-filled ass of Chris Young.

[Al Bundy]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

How much of it is just regression to the mean, though?

His walk rate is down, K-rate is the same, he's inducing more groundballs, fewer line drives, and fewer flyballs. When he throws a ball outside of the zone and the batter swings, they make contact a lot less often than last year, but they hit stuff inside the zone more often.

His SIERA and xFIP is almost the same as last year, where he outperformed his peripherals.

I haven't seen him save for a few starts (once live). Is he really all that different of a pitcher? They all can't have the horseshoe-filled ass of Chris Young.

A lot more pitches across the middle with no movement and some type of injury.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

How much of it is just regression to the mean, though?

His walk rate is down, K-rate is the same, he's inducing more groundballs, fewer line drives, and fewer flyballs. When he throws a ball outside of the zone and the batter swings, they make contact a lot less often than last year, but they hit stuff inside the zone more often.

His SIERA and xFIP is almost the same as last year, where he outperformed his peripherals.

I haven't seen him save for a few starts (once live). Is he really all that different of a pitcher? They all can't have the horseshoe-filled ass of Chris Young.

Just ask yourself one thing ... What's harder to hit? 95 or 98?

That 3 MPH makes a world of difference. If Kelvin Herrera threw 95 he'd be useless. Last year, Ventura led baseball in pitches thrown over 98 MPH and led all starters in average MPH fastball

This year? I guarantee he's way down. 95 is hittable. 99 takes luck. The difference between 90 & 95 is one thing, the difference between 95 & 100 is just HUGE

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Just ask yourself one thing ... What's harder to hit? 95 or 98?

That 3 MPH makes a world of difference. If Kelvin Herrera threw 95 he'd be useless. Last year, Ventura led baseball in pitches thrown over 98 MPH and led all starters in average MPH fastball

This year? I guarantee he's way down. 95 is hittable. 99 takes luck. The difference between 90 & 95 is one thing, the difference between 95 & 100 is just HUGE

His two seam velocity is 95.7 this year. It was 96.6 last year. He was 96.0 with a four-seamer last year and 94.5 this year.

That could account for some of it, but the increase in the value of his changeup has made him effectively the same pitcher.

[Discuss Thrower]

Salvy loves him some navy hardware, apparently.

[jimidollar]

This game got out of hand quickly. Thanks, Ventura!

[penbrook]

That almost went out

[kstater]

I thought Omar had a dinger there.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by kstater

I thought Omar had a dinger there.

Warning track power.

[petegz28]

rios gotta come through here

[C3HIEF3S]

Going to be a thrilling game, from the looks of the first 2 innings.

[tk13]

Infante cannot be contained.