Bye bye Gordon

[tk13]

I don't know if it's a plant, but at best, it reflects what someone in the front office has told Mellinger privately. They know it's going to be a PR blow.

Dayton and Yost had their end of year press conference today, and Moore was pretty specific in saying his philosophy is to pay for future production, not past performance. I wouldn't be surprised if the Royals would go 4.... that's through his 35 year old season. But I can see them not liking a 5 or 6 year deal. Especially if they hope to try and re-sign some of the younger guys on the team.

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by tk13

I don't know if it's a plant, but at best, it reflects what someone in the front office has told Mellinger privately. They know it's going to be a PR blow.

Dayton and Yost had their end of year press conference today, and Moore was pretty specific in saying his philosophy is to pay for future production, not past performance. I wouldn't be surprised if the Royals would go 4.... that's through his 35 year old season. But I can see them not liking a 5 or 6 year deal. Especially if they hope to try and re-sign some of the younger guys on the team.

And that is how you keep winning. I would only of given him a 3 year at 16 mil tops.. We need that money for Salvy, Cain and Hos.. And add a pitcher...

[Kidd Lex]

I too believe the story was a plant - but letting him walk is the right move for anything >4/80 imo. So.... He gone.

I'm not happy, but I'm good with it from an organizational health standpoint.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by The GMDM Hypothesis

I too believe the story was a plant - but letting him walk is the right move for anything >4/80 imo. So.... He gone.

I'm not happy, but I'm good with it from an organizational health standpoint.

Agreed. We can't afford another infante situation, especially at a higher salary. I'm not saying that Gordon will regress like Omar, but a long term deal hurts our chances with the next wave. We just have To hope we can find someone to come close to his production.

[ChiliConCarnage]

Originally Posted by The GMDM Hypothesis

I too believe the story was a plant - but letting him walk is the right move for anything >4/80 imo. So.... He gone.

I'm not happy, but I'm good with it from an organizational health standpoint.

I'd be shocked if the Royals offer was 4/80. Maybe near that scale for 3 years.
4/80 is paying 1/5th or 1/6th of your payroll for a 35 year old to roam the outfield.

I like Gordon too but I doubt the Royals are going to make that kind of offer.

[Lex Luthor]

Cardinals were fine after Pujols left. Royals were fine after Shields left.

They will be fine after Gordon leaves. Trust the process.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage

I'd be shocked if the Royals offer was 4/80. Maybe near that scale for 3 years.
4/80 is paying 1/5th or 1/6th of your payroll for a 35 year old to roam the outfield.

I like Gordon too but I doubt the Royals are going to make that kind of offer.

In a 4 year contract, he would be 35 in the last year, but you also get AG for the next couple of seasons while he is still in his prime. I would think the Royals would be all over a 4/$80MM Contract. That, IMO, would be good deal for the next 3 years and questionable in the last year of that contract.

[oldman]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

In a 4 year contract, he would be 35 in the last year, but you also get AG for the next couple of seasons while he is still in his prime. I would think the Royals would be all over a 4/$80MM Contract. That, IMO, would be good deal for the next 3 years and questionable in the last year of that contract.

I agree. Anything more than 4 years is a questionable business decision.

The article mentioned a drop-off in his speed. Frankly, I didn't see that except maybe on the base path. The groin injury may still be bothering him and that should be good by the time the season starts next year. Straight speed in the outfield seemed to be OK to me.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by oldman

I agree. Anything more than 4 years is a questionable business decision.

The article mentioned a drop-off in his speed. Frankly, I didn't see that except maybe on the base path. The groin injury may still be bothering him and that should be good by the time the season starts next year. Straight speed in the outfield seemed to be OK to me.

I thought he was noticeably slower in the OF as well. Several balls dropped that we would have likely caught previously.

[tomahawk kid]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

In a 4 year contract, he would be 35 in the last year, but you also get AG for the next couple of seasons while he is still in his prime. I would think the Royals would be all over a 4/$80MM Contract. That, IMO, would be good deal for the next 3 years and questionable in the last year of that contract.

This^. I think, if the team is going to keep him, we're going to have to accept overpaying him for the last year or so.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage

I'd be shocked if the Royals offer was 4/80. Maybe near that scale for 3 years.
4/80 is paying 1/5th or 1/6th of your payroll for a 35 year old to roam the outfield.

I like Gordon too but I doubt the Royals are going to make that kind of offer.

More importantly, if you're going to blow $15-20 million a year on a player, the less risky move is going after one of the younger guys like Hosmer. Not that we'll sign him, but he's much younger and part of that contract would be under a new TV deal.
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[mr. tegu]

I truly believe we need Gordon if we want to be a serious threat to win the world series again. We haven't done great getting good RF production lately from outside sources and the thought of having to fill two outfield spots with unknowns is not very exciting or encouraging.

[Brock]

they're going to do things on the cheap. Can't really complain about it, it worked. Somehow.

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by Brock

they're going to do things on the cheap. Can't really complain about it, it worked. Somehow.

Wrong - 29th largest market with 16th largest payroll.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by The GMDM Hypothesis

Wrong - 29th largest market with 16th largest payroll.

Right, but relatively cheap considering what they just accomplished.