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Old 04-30-2016, 06:27 PM   #1
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Old 04-30-2016, 06:32 PM   #2
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My thoughts are that we finally have some depth/competition at WR. Also there's going to be a lot of competition at CB, hopefully some of the young guys will stand out. We're going to have a SICK rotation on the DL. Didn't dislike any of the picks, really liked the Jones, Robinson, and Hill picks with their scary potential. I've been a die-hard fan for close to 40 years, and this is the first time I can ever remember thinking that we have a top-tier GM. Dorsey marches to his own drummer for sure, but I like taking risk/reward guys rather than the "safe" picks.
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Old 04-30-2016, 06:41 PM   #3
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Old 04-30-2016, 06:44 PM   #4
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Old 04-30-2016, 06:54 PM   #5
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The only pick I can't agree with is Hill. I mean, what he did we could have gotten him with the last pick in the draft, there was no need to take him where we did if Dorsey really wanted him.
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Old 04-30-2016, 06:56 PM   #6
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Loved the Jones, Russell, Murray, Robinson, and White picks.

If Hills issues are behind him he can be a special return man.

If Ehinger turns out to be a starter at LG (or even a good swing tackle), I'd bump it up to an A. Haven't watched him play to have an opinion though.
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:00 PM   #7
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:12 PM   #8
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:16 PM   #9
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3 CBs to try out. Maybe 1 sticks.
Barring injury, two of the CB's will make the roster and one will end up on the PS
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:17 PM   #10
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3 CBs to try out. Maybe 1 sticks.
Maybe they all stick with ST and nickel and dime packages depth can be a good thing at CB and DB. I think Barry/Peters can set the standard that these guys feed off of.
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I think it was obvious Dorsey thought the value was in the middle rounds.

Like I said earlier, either trading up of trading down makes you look like a genius of you hit and a Gotard if you miss.

I don't really care about this player vs that player I just really want to them to pan out.

Can't say I'm thilled with Hill but I'm also not dumb enough to think about half the players on any given roster aren't capable of some dirtbag things they just have been in that situation yet.
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:20 PM   #12
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Sometimes it feels like Dorsey's strategy is to tread water in the draft. In every draft they target perceived needs for the following year, especially with high picks, which really isn't much different than targeting needs for the current year.

It's a high floor, low ceiling approach, and they don't seem to extract a lot of value from it.
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Sometimes it feels like Dorsey's strategy is to tread water in the draft. In every draft they target perceived needs for the following year, especially with high picks, which really isn't much different than targeting needs for the current year.

It's a high floor, low ceiling approach, and they don't seem to extract a lot of value from it.
I have to disagree.

Fisher, Kelce, Morse, Conley, O'Shaugnessy, Ford, Gaines, Peters and even DAT were all high ceiling guys, none of which were already maxed out.

This is a ridiculously talented roster, which will only grow more talented in 2017 & 2018 when Dorsey can really spread his wings and use the draft to get potential megastars in the 1st round because of the competition and depth on the roster.
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Sometimes it feels like Dorsey's strategy is to tread water in the draft. In every draft they target perceived needs for the following year, especially with high picks, which really isn't much different than targeting needs for the current year.

It's a high floor, low ceiling approach, and they don't seem to extract a lot of value from it.


How the **** is Dorsey's approach high floor/low ceiling when he's taking guys with high ceilings at just about every pick?

With the draft he had last year, this is such a ridiculous statement. Guys like you and DJLN think you're way smarter than you are. You aren't idiots, but you're arrogant and borderline ignorant sometimes.
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How the **** is Dorsey's approach high floor/low ceiling when he's taking guys with high ceilings at just about every pick?

With the draft he had last year, this is such a ridiculous statement. Guys like you and DJLN think you're way smarter than you are. You aren't idiots, but you're arrogant and borderline ignorant sometimes.
The general philosphy is to try and replace guys like Sean Smith, Hali, Poe, etc. with guys that, if they hit, would be no better.

Replacing a great player with the potential for a great player is nice, but at best it ends up as a zero sum game. Furthermore, what happens if a guy like Ford ends up as a disappointment?

Remember when the Chiefs needed a DT in the worst way and they traded down, thinking they could get Olshanksy, only for him to go to SD, so they panicked and took Siavii? That was a team reaching for a need for that year.

What the Chiefs appear to do in every draft is address a need for the year after.

Albert-Fisher
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Poe-Jones

If those guys work out you've patched holes with players that might be as good and will be cheaper, but that's the risk. If they aren't as good, you have to go out and spend money while also wasting draft capital.

Fortunately for Chiefs fans, Dorsey's evaluation skills seem to be better than average, but the philosophy still has significant weaknesses overall because you never strengthen an already good unit--you just sew up the bullet wound to an existing one.
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