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Old 08-15-2016, 09:36 AM   #1
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DJ did you watch DJ White? I was very impressed with him. He had a couple passes defended and threw a WR to the ground.

I think White could see snaps at nickel this year. Really like his feel for the game.
Yeah, he is further along that I thought he'd be.

I figured they'd use him like they used Nelson last year; very sparingly and in more of an 'apprenticeship' role while he gets used to the speed at this level. But he looked like he may force his way onto the field a bit sooner.

It's also important to remember that he was going up against guys that are largely the same level as he is physically (he wasn't going up against any matchups that would be tough for him) and against a vanilla offense. So essentially, he was facing a top shelf college program in terms of ability and style. It's not surprising that he'd play well.

You don't know much about the young DBs until you see offenses expressly gameplanned to confuse and exploit them. So I guess what we saw was worthwhile in that it was a litmus test; can he physically hang at this level. But it didn't really tell us much beyond that.
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Old 08-15-2016, 09:38 AM   #2
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If they can find an olb that can set the edge, may have to start him in Houston's spot, let hali and ford rotate and just hope for the best.
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Old 08-15-2016, 09:41 AM   #3
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After watching the first half I'm left wondering where this Steven Nelson that was having such a good camp went?
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Old 08-15-2016, 09:43 AM   #4
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After watching the first half I'm left wondering where this Steven Nelson that was having such a good camp went?
He was covering arguably the best slot WR in the NFL.
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Old 08-15-2016, 09:44 AM   #5
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He was covering arguably the best slot WR in the NFL.
Ok?

So we're grading on a curve?
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Old 08-15-2016, 09:46 AM   #6
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Ok?

So we're grading on a curve?


Would we freak out if Julio Jones or Antonio Brown beat Peters a couple of time in the preseason?

Doug Baldwin is a very difficult matchup for any NB. He's VERY good.
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Old 08-15-2016, 09:50 AM   #7
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Would we freak out if Julio Jones or Antonio Brown beat Peters a couple of time in the preseason?

Doug Baldwin is a very difficult matchup for any NB. He's VERY good.
Well, it kind of shows why some werent as high on Nelson in the slot, due to his lack of great physical tools he's probably going to struggle with quick wrs.

Baldwin is good. Best slot WR in the game? Probably not.
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Old 08-15-2016, 10:22 AM   #8
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After watching the first half I'm left wondering where this Steven Nelson that was having such a good camp went?
I agree. Same goes for Ramik Wilson, Tyler Bray and even Dee Ford.

I've read every training camp report, read every tweet, watched every video and there's been universal praise for those players, especially Bray. Hell, even after Saturday's game, in which Bray was awful and Murray impressed, both Sam Mellinger and Terez Paylor said on Facebook Live that Bray was nearly a lock at 3rd QB.

Bray, IMO, was awful.

Camp and games are completely different animals. Some guys just don't know how to control their adrenaline, stay focused and perform to the best of their abilities under the watchful eyes of millions of people.

It would be great to see the Steven Nelson, Ramik and Bray camp performances translate to games and maybe, at some point it'll happen (although I think there's less than a 1% chance of that happening for Bray) but after the first preseason game, they all failed to live up to the hype.
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Old 08-15-2016, 10:33 AM   #9
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I agree. Same goes for Ramik Wilson, Tyler Bray and even Dee Ford.

I've read every training camp report, read every tweet, watched every video and there's been universal praise for those players, especially Bray. Hell, even after Saturday's game, in which Bray was awful and Murray impressed, both Sam Mellinger and Terez Paylor said on Facebook Live that Bray was nearly a lock at 3rd QB.

Bray, IMO, was awful.

Camp and games are completely different animals. Some guys just don't know how to control their adrenaline, stay focused and perform to the best of their abilities under the watchful eyes of millions of people.

It would be great to see the Steven Nelson, Ramik and Bray camp performances translate to games and maybe, at some point it'll happen (although I think there's less than a 1% chance of that happening for Bray) but after the first preseason game, they all failed to live up to the hype.
The thing is you can't fully judge a player off just a game, let alone just a few plays. A player for example can start a game badly and then can get into a rhythm and be solid for the rest of the game.

You know one could say Chris Jones looked better than Poe against the Seawhawks but at the end of the day, we know Poe is probably much better than Jones right now. It's just a few plays really.

I have little hope for Bray but I wish we could see him at least for a full preseason game and then decide. And he admitted he was nervous as he stepped on the field as he had not had live action for two years.
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The thing is you can't fully judge a player off just a game, let alone just a few plays. A player for example can start a game badly and then can get into a rhythm and be solid for the rest of the game.

You know one could say Chris Jones looked better than Poe against the Seawhawks but at the end of the day, we know Poe is probably much better than Jones right now. It's just a few plays really.

I have little hope for Bray but I wish we could see him at least for a full preseason game and then decide. And he admitted he was nervous as he stepped on the field as he had not had live action for two years.
The point being that none of those guys even remotely lived up to the hype.

Ramik Wilson was swallowed up in the ground game, Nelson wasn't swatting balls away, Bray was 3/9 and looked lost and Dee Ford didn't even get close to a sack.

Essentially, the exact opposite of camp reports.
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Old 08-15-2016, 09:44 AM   #11
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Sutton was playing off man coverage a lot. Nelson was lined up 10 yards off the ball at certain points so giving up the soft zone in the first 5 yards was bound to happen.

He looked good when Boykin came in and the Seahawks actually took some real shots downfield. Need to see more from him to gauge his progress IMO.
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Sutton was playing off man coverage a lot. Nelson was lined up 10 yards off the ball at certain points so giving up the soft zone in the first 5 yards was bound to happen.

He looked good when Boykin came in and the Seahawks actually took some real shots downfield. Need to see more from him to gauge his progress IMO.
Why do you think they lined him up 10 yards deep when they're playing man coverage?
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A quick Google search and I found this:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/top...s-this-season/
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Lulz at freaking out over a very good WR getting a few short catches. Typical CP
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