Terez Paylor article on Dee Ford

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

At this point, Kruger's a Vet Minimum type player. If Dezmon Moses is unable to play Week 1 or is put on the PUP, Kruger's a guy to take a look at for sure.

If Moses is ready, I'd pass on Kruger.

He had quite a few pressures last year on a shit team, and is only 30. I wouldn't give him alot, but he's probably getting more than the min.

Kruger would arguably be our 2nd best rusher at this point

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

I specifically remember many people calling him a bust after a string of games where he was getting torched by TE's.

When you say many, what number are you thinking about? Seeing a few people saying it over and over again doesn't mean that a lot of people were saying it.

[R Clark]

What's the story on Kruger .I don't remember anything about him.

[CoMoChief]

I'd almost rather put in Dadi Nicolas over Dee Ford at this point.

[ct]

kruger definitely worth bringing in for a look

[BossChief]

Plus, signing Kruger doesn't change the comp picks...would help Hali heal properly, send a message to Dee Ford...help the run defense and pass rush in the early part of the season.

I wonder why Hue cut him.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I wonder why Hue cut him.

It's Money Ball in Cleveland.

Kruger was paid too much for such little production.

Yikes, Kruger's cap number was $7.7. They saved $6.5 by cutting him.

[BossChief]

Haha remember when Carl was the GM....a guy like Paul Kruger would be a major signing.

[jspchief]

Kruger was making about $8m from what I saw. Money move, Browns are setting up next year. Not sure he'll be a vet min guy, teams will want him.

On another note, Geoff Schwartz was released.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Kruger was making about $8m from what I saw. Money move, Browns are setting up next year. Not sure he'll be a vet min guy, teams will want him.

On another note, Geoff Schwartz was released.

Yeah; I figure some team will throw a couple million his way.

What did Flowers get with San Diego? About $3 million? Kruger wasn't as good as peak Flowers and Flowers had more in the tank when released than Kruger does, IMO. But Kruger will get in that general neighborhood, IMO.

[R Clark]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Kruger was making about $8m from what I saw. Money move, Browns are setting up next year. Not sure he'll be a vet min guy, teams will want him.

On another note, Geoff Schwartz was released.

Damn wasn't Schwartz pretty decent when he was here?

[The Franchise]

Offer Kruger vet minimum with some bonuses in there. Number of games started.....number of sacks.

Put him in Houston's spot. Hali and Ford can split reps 50/50.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Offer Kruger vet minimum with some bonuses in there. Number of games started.....number of sacks.

Put him in Houston's spot. Hali and Ford can split reps 50/50.

Just FYI - Kruger started 15 games last year so if you give him incentives based on games started, they'll hit the cap immediately as they'll be considered likely to be earned. That will do nothing to help fit him in our cap.

And if you base it on sacks when you have a guy in Ford you desperately want to see succeed plus Hali and a possible Houston return, he probably won't be eager to come on board. Especially not if you put him at the SOLB slot where his pass rush opportunities are likely to be substantially reduced over what he could manage on the weak side in this scheme.

Kruger's probably not happening unless he really wants to come here and sees an opportunity for a below-market 'make good' deal that could propel him into next season's FA market. He has to know that the strong side isn't the best shot at that.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Just FYI - Kruger started 15 games last year so if you give him incentives based on games started, they'll hit the cap immediately as they'll be considered likely to be earned. That will do nothing to help fit him in our cap.

And if you base it on sacks when you have a guy in Ford you desperately want to see succeed plus Hali and a possible Houston return, he probably won't be eager to come on board. Especially not if you put him at the SOLB slot where his pass rush opportunities are likely to be substantially reduced over what he could manage on the weak side in this scheme.

Kruger's probably not happening unless he really wants to come here and sees an opportunity for a below-market 'make good' deal that could propel him into next season's FA market. He has to know that the strong side isn't the best shot at that.

If Houston is gonna be out for a while, possibly all year, they need help at olb. It's not a championship elite level d without houston.

It won't be with Kruger either, but it can be alot better in that he'd allow them to rotate ford and hali on the weak side and consistently pressure the qb.

After this article (I'm probably reading to much into it) but I don't think Ford ever really turns into a difference maker. He may end up a good solid rusher, but I don't know about a truly elite player. That's fine, but we need more oars on board if that's the case in order to keep the boat moving.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

If Houston is gonna be out for a while, possibly all year, they need help at olb. It's not a championship elite level d without houston.

It won't be with Kruger either, but it can be alot better in that he'd allow them to rotate ford and hali on the weak side and consistently pressure the qb.

After this article (I'm probably reading to much into it) but I don't think Ford ever really turns into a difference maker. He may end up a good solid rusher, but I don't know about a truly elite player. That's fine, but we need more oars on board if that's the case in order to keep the boat moving.

I agree that Kruger would help.

I just don't think they're going to be able to find the money to make it happen. They need to be very very careful in how they spend that 'found' Streater money, especially if they intend for him to be the #3 receiver. If he hits those incentives and we have to pay a cap tax for next season, if the money's been spent on Kruger, we make a precarious cap situation for next season that much worse.