Chiefs Time for Dee Ford haters to eat some crow - Page 6

Deberg_1990 · 10-30-2016, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

Eat crow about what? He still isn't good against the run, has one pass rush "move," and gets all his sacks against backups to backups. I'm not anointing the kid something great because he has some sacks. When he's a consistently good, complete OLB, then I'll eat crow.

Can't you just enjoy a kid playing well and being a major contributor?

kccrow · 10-30-2016, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Can't you just enjoy a kid playing well and being a major contributor?

I know it's difficult to understand... He had a good game today against dog shit. I'm happy. I'm not eating crow about him though.

Rasputin · 10-30-2016, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

I know it's difficult to understand... He had a good game today against dog shit. I'm happy. I'm not eating crow about him though.

Is it common for crow to eat crow? I wouldn't think you would eat yourself.

kccrow · 10-30-2016, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Is it common for crow to eat crow? I wouldn't think you would eat yourself.

It would be kinda weird

RunKC · 10-30-2016, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

Eat crow about what? He still isn't good against the run, has one pass rush "move," and gets all his sacks against backups to backups. I'm not anointing the kid something great because he has some sacks. When he's a consistently good, complete OLB, then I'll eat crow.

I never understood people putting down Ford for playing bad competition. Von Miller got 3 sacks against the same team and same players. He also got a lot of sacks on our garbage OL the last few years.
Khalil Mack got 5 sacks a horrible Michael Schofield.
Justin Houston got 4 sacks in a game against a horrible Chargers OL 2 years ago as well as several other sacks on other bad players that year.

So those not count either?

kccrow · 10-30-2016, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I never understood people putting down Ford for playing bad competition. Von Miller got 3 sacks against the same team and same players. He also got a lot of sacks on our garbage OL the last few years.
Khalil Mack got 5 sacks a horrible Michael Schofield.
Justin Houston got 4 sacks in a game against a horrible Chargers OL 2 years ago as well as several other sacks on other bad players that year.

So those not count either?

They count, but not as much in my book. Making a big play to shut down a drive in the middle of a game against a good player that helps turn the tide? That's a good play. Getting a garbage time sack against a 3rd string RT? That's not the same level play. I'm not saying Ford isn't making some plays, but there's alot more I expect out of the kid before I call him even an average 3-4 OLB at this point. Sacks aren't the entire story of a player. I've seen plenty of guys have a 7-10 sack season by almost sheer luck and go back to sucking total balls. Ford needs to get pressure every game, multiple series a game, and he needs to play the run far better. When he does that, I'll eat some crow. 5.5 of his 7 sacks came against 2 atrocious backup right tackles. He's been relatively irrelevant otherwise. Let's not suck the kid's dick just yet.

RunKC · 10-30-2016, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

They count, but not as much in my book. Making a big play to shut down a drive in the middle of a game against a good player that helps turn the tide? That's a good play. Getting a garbage time sack against a 3rd string RT? That's not the same level play. I'm not saying Ford isn't making some plays, but there's alot more I expect out of the kid before I call him even an average 3-4 OLB at this point. Sacks aren't the entire story of a player. I've seen plenty of guys have a 7-10 sack season by almost sheer luck and go back to sucking total balls. Ford needs to get pressure every game, multiple series a game, and he needs to play the run far better. When he does that, I'll eat some crow. 5.5 of his 7 sacks came against 2 atrocious backup right tackles. He's been relatively irrelevant otherwise. Let's not suck the kid's dick just yet.

That's fair I guess, but he's gotten a sack (or combined sack) in 5/7 games this year. I would definitely consider that consistent as far as making a play . Unfortunately Tamba erased his sack last week though.

He's not perfect, but I'm seeing such a big mark of consistency. He's not Houston but he's looking like a damn good complimentary OLB in the making

kccrow · 10-30-2016, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

That's fair I guess, but he's gotten a sack (or combined sack) in 5/7 games this year. I would definitely consider that consistent as far as making a play . Unfortunately Tamba erased his sack last week though.

He's not perfect, but I'm seeing such a big mark of consistency. He's not Houston but he's looking like a damn good complimentary OLB in the making

And I'll be fair too; he's getting better. He's not there yet and he's not a complete player yet. I think my expectations for him are that he becomes a complete player, being a 1st round pick. I know the "draft position doesn't matter" crowd will disagree, but that's my expectation. I expect one-trick ponies later in the draft.

**Bob Dole** · 10-30-2016, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

Eat crow about what? He still isn't good against the run, has one pass rush "move," and gets all his sacks against backups to backups. I'm not anointing the kid something great because he has some sacks. When he's a consistently good, complete OLB, then I'll eat crow.

So basically, you haven't been watching the games.

kccrow · 10-30-2016, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

So basically, you haven't been watching the games.

I don't wash players' balls because I do watch the games.

You want to know the player I would eat the most crow on right now? Parker Ehinger. But the kid can't stay healthy.

**Bob Dole** · 10-30-2016, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

I don't wash players' balls because I do watch the games.

You want to know the player I would eat the most crow on right now? Parker Ehinger. But the kid can't stay healthy.

Ah. The "You're a ball washer" argument.

He has not been a liability against the run this season. But carry on.

Pasta Little Brioni · 10-30-2016, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Ah. The "You're a ball washer" argument.

He has not been a liability against the run this season. But carry on.

It's like these clowns watch a different game to pretend they weren't wrong.

Pasta Little Brioni · 10-30-2016, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

I don't wash players' balls because I do watch the games.

You want to know the player I would eat the most crow on right now? Parker Ehinger. But the kid can't stay healthy.

Sorry dude. You seem football dumb.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 10-30-2016, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

So basically, you haven't been watching the games.

The guy is a ****ing moron

Pasta Little Brioni · 10-30-2016, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

Eat crow about what? He still isn't good against the run, has one pass rush "move," and gets all his sacks against backups to backups. I'm not anointing the kid something great because he has some sacks. When he's a consistently good, complete OLB, then I'll eat crow.

11 sacks in 14 games is great no matter who you are facing. The other guys don't give back sacks either.