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View Poll Results: Do you want Foles to take over the QB position
Yes, he offers us a real shot at a Championship 29 21.80%
No, Alex is the man 82 61.65%
Doesn't matter ,either way we suck 9 6.77%
I would like to order a few bags of boar #1725 13 9.77%
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:58 AM   #1
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Foles was awful. He'd get slaughtered by a winning team.
Yep, no difference.
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Old 11-07-2016, 11:56 AM   #2
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Bowser if you're going to compare Smiths yards you have to include his rush yards too... Unless you don't want to provide the full facts
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Old 11-07-2016, 11:59 AM   #3
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Has Foles lost a game as a Chiefs yet?

Literally all the man does is win!
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Old 11-07-2016, 12:02 PM   #4
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Has Foles lost a game as a Chiefs yet?

Literally all the man does is win!
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Old 11-07-2016, 12:07 PM   #5
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Has Foles lost a game as a Chiefs yet?

Literally all the man does is win!
Yea let's get him an osweiler contract before he walks..
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Old 11-07-2016, 12:11 PM   #6
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Bowser if you're going to compare Smiths yards you have to include his rush yards too... Unless you don't want to provide the full facts
The full facts are this - it wouldn't matter if I listed them or not, because how many signature wins did his rushing bring either us or the Niners as compared to what Brady or Wilson have done? I'll help you out - it helped the Niners beat the Saints in the NFC divisional round, that's it.

You're the one pulling a groin muscle here (not to mention making yourself look like an idiot) by trying to compare Alex to either Brady or Wilson. Alex is a good quarterback whose strength is not turning over the ball. Alex is not an elite game changing QB as Brady and Wilson are. That explains why Alex only has 4 wins against teams where his defense gives up 24 or more points. He's not a QB that can win you games coming from behind late. But you know all of this.
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Old 11-07-2016, 12:16 PM   #7
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The full facts are this - it wouldn't matter if I listed them or not, because how many signature wins did his rushing bring either us or the Niners as compared to what Brady or Wilson have done? I'll help you out - it helped the Niners beat the Saints in the NFC divisional round, that's it.

You're the one pulling a groin muscle here (not to mention making yourself look like an idiot) by trying to compare Alex to either Brady or Wilson. Alex is a good quarterback whose strength is not turning over the ball. Alex is not an elite game changing QB as Brady and Wilson are. That explains why Alex only has 4 wins against teams where his defense gives up 24 or more points. He's not a QB that can win you games coming from behind late. But you know all of this.
On the opposite side though, he is top 3 in protecting a lead and making sure the team comes out with a W
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Old 11-07-2016, 12:25 PM   #8
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On the opposite side though, he is top 3 in protecting a lead and making sure the team comes out with a W
Also known as being a top flight game manager. No shame in it when his teams win, but again, he's just not a guy that is going to rally a team down 10+ in the 4th quarter.

We've had way, way worse QB's here in KC than Alex, but let's not start pretending that he is one of the very best in the league. He is an above average guy as a quarterback. Coming from a guy that had to sit through the Brodie Croyle and Tyler Thigpen years, I'll take it.

But we have to keep the TigerUpperBob's in place when they start getting out of control with this stuff.
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Old 11-07-2016, 01:34 PM   #9
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He is an above average guy as a quarterback.
If this is how you feel, it is certainly close enough to my opinion of him to not bother spending time arguing about it.
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Old 11-07-2016, 11:58 AM   #10
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I clearly stated Russell's first two seasons which includes his super bowl run but to move the goal posts Bowser lists 4 years worth.

Clearly you are desperate to prove me wrong

Facts are facts.
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Old 11-07-2016, 12:13 PM   #11
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I clearly stated Russell's first two seasons which includes his super bowl run but to move the goal posts Bowser lists 4 years worth.

Clearly you are desperate to prove me wrong

Facts are facts.
Oh, you're doing the heavy lifting yourself but don't even realize it. Maybe you do, I don't know.
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Old 11-07-2016, 12:18 PM   #12
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Alex career rushing - 440 att, 1,975 yds, 9 TD's

Wilson career rushing - 436 att, 2,474 yds 12 TD's


And Wilson has done that in 4+ years compared to Alex's 11+

Good call bringing up the rushing stats!
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Old 11-07-2016, 01:21 PM   #13
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Jesus Christ bowser can you even stay on topic. You are as bad as clay moving those goal posts.

It's already been established here, far worse quarterbacks than Smith have won the title. Team effort. But primarily, defense wins rings. Just ask Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Roeth, Flacco, Eli... None of those guys have won it carrying their whole team. The closest to doing that was brees and that only happens once in a blue moon
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Old 11-07-2016, 01:33 PM   #14
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Jesus Christ bowser can you even stay on topic. You are as bad as clay moving those goal posts.

It's already been established here, far worse quarterbacks than Smith have won the title. Team effort. But primarily, defense wins rings. Just ask Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Roeth, Flacco, Eli... None of those guys have won it carrying their whole team. The closest to doing that was brees and that only happens once in a blue moon
It's already been explained to you that Tom Brady was top 10 in yards and TDs his 2nd, 3rd and 4th years in the league.

Rodgers was 5th and 4th the year of his SB.

Flacco was 14th and 17th

Eli was 12th and 9th.

The WORST of that group was Roethlisberger as a rookie, and even his 21st YPG was > than Alex has ever been, and he would have been top 10 in TDs had he started all 16 games.

Please just stop this madness. Alex Smith is currently 26th in YPG and has fewer TDs than Case Keenum. This team is going to need an absolute miraculous defensive revival with Houston returning to 100% to get close to a SB while Smith is here.
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Old 11-07-2016, 04:20 PM   #15
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It's already been explained to you that Tom Brady was top 10 in yards and TDs his 2nd, 3rd and 4th years in the league.

Rodgers was 5th and 4th the year of his SB.

Flacco was 14th and 17th

Eli was 12th and 9th.

The WORST of that group was Roethlisberger as a rookie, and even his 21st YPG was > than Alex has ever been, and he would have been top 10 in TDs had he started all 16 games.

Please just stop this madness. Alex Smith is currently 26th in YPG and has fewer TDs than Case Keenum. This team is going to need an absolute miraculous defensive revival with Houston returning to 100% to get close to a SB while Smith is here.
You realize our offense as a unit in 2015 was top five in points per offensive drive? If Smith is leading the offense and the running backs are feasting inside the ten yard line, it would be misleading to say Smith isn't contributing
To the success of the team.

Efficiency plus wins is enough indication to me that Smith is a quality quarterback. Hard to refute that . ...
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