NFLPA director: likelihood of a strike/lockout in 2021 "almost a virtual certainty"

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by BossChief

5b / 32 teams = 156,250,000 per team

So you confirmed my numbers. Are you proud of yourself?

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

More on the transformational CBA proposal now on the table, per sources: As part of the new deal, players go from 47% share under current deal to 48% share at 16 games, and then to 48.5% share if they go to 17 games, shifting $5 billion of revenue to players’ side.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) February 20, 2020

That’s just part of the upcoming cap explosion and why I’m advocating keeping Jones on a long term deal this offseason.

In 2 years, it will seem like a huge bargain.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by BossChief

That’s just part of the upcoming cap explosion and why I’m advocating keeping Jones on a long term deal this offseason.

In 2 years, it will seem like a huge bargain.

Keep Watkins too

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Keep Watkins too

Absolutely.

I'd love to see a restructured deal where he's given a 2 year, $24 million dollar deal with $12 million guaranteed.

Throw in some incentives for year two and go...

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Absolutely.

I'd love to see a restructured deal where he's given a 2 year, $24 million dollar deal with $12 million guaranteed.

Throw in some incentives for year two and go...

Hell guarantee 14 so it doesn’t look like He’s giving money away

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Expanding on this, and as we reported a couple of weeks back, the players' share of revenue under the new deal could go even higher than that 48.5 percent depending on how much revenue is generated from the new TV deals. Could conceivably approach 49. https://t.co/Ao5dk2799O

— Dan Graziano (@DanGrazianoESPN) February 20, 2020

[Megatron96]

So it being three years since the thread was started, what are the odds that there's a work stoppage looming in 2021 now?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

So it being three years since the thread was started, what are the odds that there's a work stoppage looming in 2021 now?

The same as they were in 2017: Zero

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's just posturing.

The players won't strike because their careers are too short.

[BossChief]

Sorry, I’m not anywhere near as big of a fan of Sammy Watkins as others here are. He’s ultra talented, but has motivation problems and decides when to turn on his switch and when to just put it on autopilot. After week 1, he kinda disappeared till the playoffs. After winning the Super Bowl, he started talking about taking a year off or sitting out till camp.

I’d rather spend that kind of $ on players that bring max effort every play.

This is the best WR class in quite some time. 55 WRs were invited to the combine. I’d rather use that money on a stud corner or linebacker, TBH.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Sorry, I’m not anywhere near as big of a fan of Sammy Watkins as others here are. He’s ultra talented, but has motivation problems and decides when to turn on his switch and when to just put it on autopilot. After week 1, he kinda disappeared till the playoffs. After winning the Super Bowl, he started talking about taking a year off or sitting out till camp.

I totally get what you’re saying but from my perspective, the Chiefs offense is at its most dangerous when Watkins is healthy and available. It just wasn’t the same without him, IMO.

I’d rather the Chiefs keep him and draft a possible replacement rather than cut ties with him and hope they can find someone that can step in to provide similar value offensively.

Hardman isn’t a Watkins replacement, IMO. The Chiefs would need to hit on a second rounder like Deebo Samuel in order to replace Watkins in this offense, which I suppose isn’t out of the question in the 2020 draft, but is much riskier than continuing to keep Watkins on the roster.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I totally get what you’re saying but from my perspective, the Chiefs offense is at its most dangerous when Watkins is healthy and available. It just wasn’t the same without him, IMO.

I’d rather the Chiefs keep him and draft a possible replacement rather than cut ties with him and hope they can find someone that can step in to provide similar value offensively.

Hardman isn’t a Watkins replacement, IMO. The Chiefs would need to hit on a second rounder like Deebo Samuel in order to replace Watkins in this offense, which I suppose isn’t out of the question in the 2020 draft, but is much riskier than continuing to keep Watkins on the roster.

I’m on record with a breakdown of why I’d be ok with extending Sammy at the current going rate of his role on the team. 10-11m per with a cap of 12m aav

That’s paying him like Keenan Allen.

I think that’s beyond fair, being that Allen has twice the production.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I totally get what you’re saying but from my perspective, the Chiefs offense is at its most dangerous when Watkins is healthy and available. It just wasn’t the same without him, IMO.

I’d rather the Chiefs keep him and draft a possible replacement rather than cut ties with him and hope they can find someone that can step in to provide similar value offensively.

Hardman isn’t a Watkins replacement, IMO. The Chiefs would need to hit on a second rounder like Deebo Samuel in order to replace Watkins in this offense, which I suppose isn’t out of the question in the 2020 draft, but is much riskier than continuing to keep Watkins on the roster.

I don’t know. This is one of the deepest WR drafts in years, maybe EVER, according to some scouts. A lot of guys being taken in the second round may be first rounders in other years. If you can get a first round talent in the second on a rookie deal, that sure looks tempting compared to paying Watkins $12-14 mil. per year. And you could invest that extra money back into Jones (if the Chiefs decide to keep him) or a really good FA CB or an elite LB.

I like Watkins too, but the strategy above may be a smarter play. Plus, as others have said, I question his motivation going forward.

[TimBone]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

I don’t know. This is one of the deepest WR drafts in years, maybe EVER, according to some scouts. A lot of guys being taken in the second round may be first rounders in other years. If you can get a first round talent in the second on a rookie deal, that sure looks tempting compared to paying Watkins $12-14 mil. per year. And you could invest that extra money back into Jones (if the Chiefs decide to keep him) or a really good FA CB or an elite LB.



I like Watkins too, but the strategy above may be a smarter play. Plus, as others have said, I question his motivation going forward.

Production or not, Sammy has to be accounted for anytime he's on the field. He's got ultra speed with decent size. Like Dan mentioned, the offensive production of the offense goes down when he's out because his presence alone opens up the field for others.

Even if the Chiefs hit on a great receiver in this class, would you want to rely on a rookie coming in and playing consistently in Reid's offense? The Chiefs could realistically win the SB again next year. I wouldnt want to be counting on a rookie coming in to learn Reid's offense and have that same impact year one that Watkins has when he's in the game.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Sorry, I’m not anywhere near as big of a fan of Sammy Watkins as others here are. He’s ultra talented, but has motivation problems and decides when to turn on his switch and when to just put it on autopilot. After week 1, he kinda disappeared till the playoffs. After winning the Super Bowl, he started talking about taking a year off or sitting out till camp.

I’d rather spend that kind of $ on players that bring max effort every play.

This is the best WR class in quite some time. 55 WRs were invited to the combine. I’d rather use that money on a stud corner or linebacker, TBH.

he didnt talk about sitting out a year after the SB...

[Iowanian]

I think they could help teams by expanding the roster to 55 and letting every player dress.