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Old 08-22-2017, 04:19 PM   #1
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Just seems odd to publicly state this 4 years before any real consequences from a strike will happen. Really bad PR move, but if it gets them some leverage then go for it.
Isn't this exactly the time you should be floating trial balloons? Or planting seeds?

Getting caught flat-footed is exactly why they've had to scramble in the past. Because suddenly the spigot turns off and they look at each other and go 'oh shit, what now?'....

Get those gears turning earlier and maybe you'll get a better result. And as you've noted, with no ability to effectuate significant change in the next 4 years, where's the leverage and where's the downshot? Take a big swing - maybe you'll hit it, maybe you won't. Perhaps it will convince an owner or two that there are serious fissures here that need mending.

If not, there's 4 years to regroup and see where to go from there. I see no harm here.
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Old 08-22-2017, 04:23 PM   #2
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Isn't this exactly the time you should be floating trial balloons? Or planting seeds?

Getting caught flat-footed is exactly why they've had to scramble in the past. Because suddenly the spigot turns off and they look at each other and go 'oh shit, what now?'....

Get those gears turning earlier and maybe you'll get a better result. And as you've noted, with no ability to effectuate significant change in the next 4 years, where's the leverage and where's the downshot? Take a big swing - maybe you'll hit it, maybe you won't. Perhaps it will convince an owner or two that there are serious fissures here that need mending.

If not, there's 4 years to regroup and see where to go from there. I see no harm here.
Privately, yes. Its more of the perceived middle finger to the fans thats giving me pause. I am an absolute shit bargainer though so what do I know.
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Old 08-22-2017, 02:22 PM   #3
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Old 08-22-2017, 02:31 PM   #4
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Old 08-22-2017, 02:32 PM   #5
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I've seen so much hatred of the NFL over the last couple of years that I wouldn't be surprised if the fans give double-birds to both the owners and the players.
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Old 08-22-2017, 02:32 PM   #6
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Old 08-23-2017, 05:49 AM   #7
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Winston strikes me as the kind of guy who wears velcro shoes.
That is VERY fitting!
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Old 08-22-2017, 02:37 PM   #8
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I guess Winston doesn't care about anyone who might want to play in the NFL in 20 years. These negotiations are not going to go well.
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Old 08-22-2017, 02:38 PM   #9
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Old 08-22-2017, 02:39 PM   #10
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people should tell Winthston he should be grateful the NFL doesn't pay players strictly based on performance; because he'd be broke.
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Old 08-22-2017, 02:50 PM   #11
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Old 08-22-2017, 04:57 PM   #12
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I don't care if Winston dies in 20 years, either.
They got 4 years to vent. They will sign a better deal and the NFL will give a little.

The baseball players almost cost the game of baseball its life because they didnt want a hard salary cap. It took the McGuire/Sosa home run chase to bring the fans and game back. And now its mostly about your own team. How many fans watch other teams play? They learned the selfish principle from the players and owners.

Baseball would be in better shape if they had a hard salary cap. It's unfair to have LA with $263 million to spend and 80% of the team under $100 million. LA gets to makes mistakes and move on. Other teams make mistakes it cripples their competitiveness.
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just make it where each game there's a pool of $x dollars per game.
Winners get 70% to divide up between the players.
Losers get 30% to divide up between the losing players.

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