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Old 08-31-2017, 10:43 AM   #1
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And you want to make it worse?
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Old 08-31-2017, 10:46 AM   #2
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And you want to make it worse?
Well, you really don't have a chance without a QB as it stands now.

Either you find a way to give the teams that don't have a top 10 QB a better chance of succeeding against a team that does through some salary cap or draft shenanigans or you totally overhaul the rules concerning defending against QBs and receivers.
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Old 08-31-2017, 10:48 AM   #3
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Either you find a way to give the teams that don't have a top 10 QB a better chance of succeeding against a team that does through some salary cap or draft shenanigans or you totally overhaul the rules concerning defending against QBs and receivers.
This makes no sense.

THERE IS NO PROBLEM WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE.

Allowing a team to nerf a salary means the QB-great teams will only further strangle the rest of the league...
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Old 08-31-2017, 10:54 AM   #4
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THERE IS NO PROBLEM WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE.
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Those have been the AFC QBs in the Super Bowl since I started high school a decade ago.

You have no problem with this?
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Old 08-31-2017, 10:57 AM   #5
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Those have been the AFC QBs in the Super Bowl since I started high school a decade ago.

You have no problem with this?
My only problem is that we didn't have intelligent staff in place to draft any of them...
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Old 08-31-2017, 10:58 AM   #6
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Well, you really don't have a chance without a QB as it stands now.

Either you find a way to give the teams that don't have a top 10 QB a better chance of succeeding against a team that does through some salary cap or draft shenanigans or you totally overhaul the rules concerning defending against QBs and receivers.
I'm not sure I get the point you're trying to make, that's the way the system already works. Changing it to the proposed system would give the elite QB team a bigger advantage.

Look at it this way if a team has a top QB and is paying him $25 million per season, and another team has "just a guy" at QB and is paying him $12 million per season. That team has 13 million extra dollars to improve other areas of their roster. Under the proposed system both teams would have the same cap amount plus one team has a way better QB.

Also why do we need to make a QB pay scale if we aren't counting them against the cap anyway?
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The NFL discovered years ago that people love superpower teams, but they also have the illusion of "balance" and "hope" for the have-nots.

They have it set up nearly perfectly right now. Mega ratings due to record offense.

I can see the NFL actually making the QB cap rule. It would allow the superpower teams to become even stronger, thus catapulting ratings and money.
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Old 08-31-2017, 10:51 AM   #8
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It is only temporary. Market forces always achieve equilibrium if you just leave them alone. If the NFL is stupid, they will raise the cap to allow for QB overpay. If they are smart, they will not drastically raise the cap. GMs will realize not tooverpay their QBs. Oh some will, but they will find it impossible to keep a team around him and wont win super bowls.

Here is to hoping the NFL owners are not that stupid.
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It is only temporary. Market forces always achieve equilibrium if you just leave them alone.
Exactly.

Believe it or not the NFL is a better balance of right/left (communism/free market) than our government is.

The NFL should not shift more towards modern politics - if anything, modern politics should shift more towards the NFL...
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Has any QB ever had it easier than Brady? His division is never any good.
Even if one of the other teams in the division happen to have a good season, they're still not likely to take it from the best HC/QB combo of all time! But Brady and BB, can't do it forever (thank god)!!
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Actually expected Stafford to get 30 mil a year.

The issue to me is more about how few upper echelon qb's there are right now, and how many of them are close to retirement age. There's a reason the Dolphins pulled Cutler out of the studio, and the argument could be made that he's an improvement over Tannehill.
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