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Old 10-16-2017, 04:20 PM   #1
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Then what is the rule? 2 feet down, and 5 seconds of control? 10 seconds of control? What's the rule?

I've seen players catch the ball and immediately spike it. Should those be in-completions?

If they spiked it too fast, then yeah, possibly. Arguably that's exactly what happened to Megatron back when his TD was overturned.

Here's all you need (maybe), including video showing complete/incomplete catches. Note the Beckham incomplete pass in the end zone when Butler knocks it out. Starts at about 1:12. Two feet down, clear control, then Butler knocks it out a half-second later. INcomplete.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules...eting-a-catch/
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Old 10-16-2017, 04:30 PM   #2
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If they spiked it too fast, then yeah, possibly. Arguably that's exactly what happened to Megatron back when his TD was overturned.

Here's all you need (maybe), including video showing complete/incomplete catches. Note the Beckham incomplete pass in the end zone when Butler knocks it out. Starts at about 1:12. Two feet down, clear control, then Butler knocks it out a half-second later. INcomplete.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules...eting-a-catch/
Nice find. If Eisen knows what he's talking about, then sounds like the ruling on Sunday was correct.
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Old 10-16-2017, 07:11 PM   #3
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If they spiked it too fast, then yeah, possibly. Arguably that's exactly what happened to Megatron back when his TD was overturned.

Here's all you need (maybe), including video showing complete/incomplete catches. Note the Beckham incomplete pass in the end zone when Butler knocks it out. Starts at about 1:12. Two feet down, clear control, then Butler knocks it out a half-second later. INcomplete.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules...eting-a-catch/
In the Beckham catch, Butler knocked the ball out before a 3rd step was made. Harris took an additional step after both feet landed before the ball was knocked out.
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Old 10-16-2017, 03:58 PM   #4
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Absolutely was a TD. If that happens on the sidelines and his 3rd step was out of bounds, it’s a catch. He has complete control with both feet down, TD, not even up for discussion, if it was someone more “famous” or one of the NFL’s darlings, we wouldn’t even be having this discussion because it would have been ruled a TD and upheld through replay.

Bottom line, Chiefs got ref-****ed again and no one will care.
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Old 10-16-2017, 05:01 PM   #5
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Definitely not a catch... Lots of homer posts in this thread.
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Old 10-16-2017, 05:03 PM   #6
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“I feel like I had the ball long enough, for two seconds, to call it a touchdown,” Harris said.


*Regardless what you believe there should of been a pass interference called on that play.
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Old 10-16-2017, 06:23 PM   #7
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I may just be a homer, but I'll stand by my initial reaction that it's a catch.
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Old 10-16-2017, 08:18 PM   #9
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I don't know what's a catch anymore.
It is clear from this thread that no one really does, myself included.
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Old 10-17-2017, 10:18 AM   #11
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NFL rules have jumped the ****ing shark. Most of the time a receiver can body slam a defender and the defender will get called for interference, but for some reason they have turned "completing the catch" into some vague wasteland of referee interpretation.

And then they overturn the JETS touchdown ...

The outcome of games is determined by judgement calls far too often, and I'm convinced the NFL has done this on purpose.
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Old 10-17-2017, 04:21 PM   #12
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All he had to do was fall forward towards the ball and he would have maintained possession. I think it's 50/50 if Andy challenges.
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I can't gif this, but look at the second video in this link with the different angle.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...179037141.html
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