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01-03-2018, 10:16 AM | #512 |
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In the past, he's had zero problem denying rumors when the Royals are being used and/or there is no truth to them, regardless of whether he wanted to re-sign a guy or not. No comment is the closest thing DM gets to affirming that there is some truth to a report. We'll see.
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You seem to know more about it than me or Mellinger or anyone else, so you explain it to me. You've basically waved your hand at every piece of evidence I've put in front of you. So explain it. Explain how they bake in the expected team performance for 10-plus years. How signing Eric Hosmer to a 7-year deal will increase the value of the contract. Despite other teams signing lucrative deals while jettisoning players amidst losing seasons. Explain it, Wazu. Lay it out, in detail. Educate me. Inform me. Elevate me to your level.
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01-03-2018, 10:27 AM | #514 | |
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01-03-2018, 10:28 AM | #515 | |
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01-03-2018, 10:30 AM | #516 | |
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This. It's possible this is a ploy by one side or the other (Royals saving face with fans and appearing to try, Hosmer's camp trying to jump start his market). But Moore choosing to not comment makes it seem more likely to be accurate.
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01-03-2018, 10:31 AM | #517 |
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I'm not sure it's a good contract, but I'm honestly not surprised if it's true. I've just had a gut feeling all along that Dayton loves Hosmer and will take a big swing at him.
I think if they can back load the contract they can afford it, for sure. We have a lot of terrible contracts on the books this year, but moving forward it's really just Kennedy and Gordon. Now whether it's a good idea to sign him for 7 years, that's another story. |
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I figured the Royals would wait and see what the biggest offer was and try to top it, so I'd bet there's some accuracy to this. |
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01-03-2018, 10:40 AM | #520 | |
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I'm not sure they even need to back load it that heavily. Their commitments get pretty small past this year. $71 millions for 2019 and just $54 million for 2020 (for 5 players and 4 players, respectively).
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01-03-2018, 11:02 AM | #523 |
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Regardless of what increase the TV contract gives you, it's likely that any difference between current and post-2019 contract will effectively be invested in Hosmer's contract if any of these reports end up being true. So outside of this year, I don't think we have to worry too much about how a Hosmer contract affects the Royals from 2019 onward.
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Take away his 2015 season and re-check the numbers. He's been very good but not even close to HoF. His career OPS+ is 140, but without 2015 it's 126. That's really good but HoF? Not even close bro. Here's his top BBRef comp: JD Martinez. Here's his top "thru age 24" sim score: Andruw Jones. (Of his top 10 only 3 made the Hall: Robinson Aaron Griffey. Ruben Sierra and Justin Upton made it) His last two years he's (1) farted out a piddly 814 OPS in 628 PA, and then he (2) follows up by only playing 111 games. Harper's 2015 is a sever outlier. I said he was the new Mantle, and better than Trout long term. And I was flat wrong. |
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01-03-2018, 11:51 AM | #525 | |
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I'm sure as he enters the first year of his prime, he's not going to improve any. I mean shit man, how disengenuous can you be. "Only 3 of the top 10 made the hall..." His top 10 - Andruw Jones, who will get close to the Hall but probably not make it due to his bizarre Dale Murphy sort of collapse. Frank Robinson - uh, he's not bad. Upton - a very good player who never approached peak Harper even as he damn near won an MVP at 23. Giancarlo Stanton - if he stays healthy he's hitting 600+ bombs and he'll go in; he's demonstrating clear HoF skills. Sierra - that one admittedly surprises me. Juan Gonzalez - his steroid fueled numbers are what puts him at the level of Harper in his early 20s and if he'd have stayed on the juice he'd have gone in; dude was a monster. do you just not remember the perennial triple crown threat he was on roids? Hank Aaron, Miguel Cabrera, Ken Griffey Jr and Mike Trout. Um...yeah, that's not bad company. So 4 of them are still active, 3 of them on clear HoF tracks and the 4th is damn good in his own right. One of them was a steroid fueled freak, another suffered one of the more obvious late-career collapses in MLB history. The others are among the best players in baseball history. You got Ruben Sierra though, I'll give you that. Harper is a damn monster. He's had 2 seasons with an OPS over 1.000 by 24 years old and his 2016 season was on track to be as good as his '15 (and '17) seasons but/for his shoulder injury. Look at his splits before he got hurt that year. But yeah, he stepped on a wet bag wrong and his damn knee almost exploded in '17 so clearly he's just some flash in the pan. Seriously, this is almost as stupid as your Arenado idiocy (very little is as stupid as your Arenado idiocy). You just don't know ****-all about National League baseball, do you?
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