Football Jurrell Casey plans to protest on field during anthem - Page 3

**loochy** · 07-19-2018, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

"Already, the two have created the Casey Fund, a nonprofit organization dedicated to raising money for re-entry programs, inner-city youth programs, mentoring, halfway houses and other projects."

Looks like he's trying to arrange awareness in a multitude of ways.

That's good. Does his fist or belligerence tell me how or make me want to donate?
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Hog Rider · 07-19-2018, 07:36 AM

Doesn't the team pay the fine instead of the player?

Hoopsdoc · 07-19-2018, 07:41 AM

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Doesn't the team pay the fine instead of the player?

I don’t think that’s specified but I imagine most teams will pay the fines.

displacedinMN · 07-19-2018, 07:56 AM

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I don’t think that’s specified but I imagine most teams will pay the fines.

Until 25 players protest and the NFL fines each of them 5000 a game.

**loochy** · 07-19-2018, 07:37 AM

Maybe he gets "injured" and placed on IR for a week or 2.
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Strongside · 07-19-2018, 07:55 AM

These protests have moved past the point of “shedding light on one’s community.” They represent something drastically different to the general public now. The original message has been so muddied up that it’s become moot. My issue is that I’ve not heard one person explain to me what the end game is. What’s the desired outcome? “Shedding light on your community” is great, but what do you WANT to see happen to satisfy your protest?

Protests are the sister of demand. If you can’t clearly, or even loosely, define what your demands are, then your protest is simply an act of rebellion. Rebellion is fine, but it’s no way to shift public perception or opinion without a stated goal.

The one thing that irked me abou Peters’ protests last year is that he REFUSED to talk about it. If you’re trying to raise awareness, but then you don’t use your voice in your unique public stage, that’s a huge miss. It comes off as incredibly self-serving.

**Nzoner** · 07-19-2018, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Strongside

These protests have moved past the point of “shedding light on one’s community.” They represent something drastically different to the general public now. The original message has been so muddied up that it’s become moot. My issue is that I’ve not heard one person explain to me what the end game is. What’s the desired outcome? “Shedding light on your community” is great, but what do you WANT to see happen to satisfy your protest?

Protests are the sister of demand. If you can’t clearly, or even loosely, define what your demands are, then your protest is simply an act of rebellion. Rebellion is fine, but it’s no way to shift public perception or opinion without a stated goal.

The one thing that irked me abou Peters’ protests last year is that he REFUSED to talk about it. If you’re trying to raise awareness, but then you don’t use your voice in your unique public stage, that’s a huge miss. It comes off as incredibly self-serving.

Very well put and 100% agree

My opinion(especially with guys like Peters) **** them and **** this league

Marcellus · 07-21-2018, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongside

These protests have moved past the point of “shedding light on one’s community.” They represent something drastically different to the general public now. The original message has been so muddied up that it’s become moot. My issue is that I’ve not heard one person explain to me what the end game is. What’s the desired outcome? “Shedding light on your community” is great, but what do you WANT to see happen to satisfy your protest?

Protests are the sister of demand. If you can’t clearly, or even loosely, define what your demands are, then your protest is simply an act of rebellion. Rebellion is fine, but it’s no way to shift public perception or opinion without a stated goal.

The one thing that irked me abou Peters’ protests last year is that he REFUSED to talk about it. If you’re trying to raise awareness, but then you don’t use your voice in your unique public stage, that’s a huge miss. It comes off as incredibly self-serving.

Solid post but this has been brought up about 1,000X already and the usual suspects still show up and defend this nonsense.

Social Injustice does not exist, nor does most of what they are protesting or as you pointed out, there would be specific discussions to be had instead of just SJW buzzwords.

CHENZ A! · 07-21-2018, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Social Injustice does not exist, nor does most of what they are protesting or as you pointed out, there would be specific discussions to be had instead of just SJW buzzwords.

It's seriously baffling to me how someone so naive, ignorant, and obviously sheltered can actually exist in todays world. At least if you were being intentionally dishonest it would make sense, but if that's your actual take.. yikes. You should probably just boycott.

Marcellus · 07-21-2018, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CHENZ A!

It's seriously baffling to me how someone so naive, ignorant, and obviously sheltered can actually exist in todays world. At least if you were being intentionally dishonest it would make sense, but if that's your actual take.. yikes. You should probably just boycott.

NAh dude I am not the one falling for the bullshit.

Before lecturing me on what you think I know or dont know you may want to think of who is in charge in all these places all these players are claiming Social Injustice exist.

You know where these places are, I believe you live in one. You should know who is in charge.

So go ahead and act enlightened but as far as I am concerned you are dumber than these players complaining about being ****ed by their own.

Al Bundy · 07-21-2018, 10:44 PM

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NAh dude I am not the one falling for the bullshit.

Before lecturing me on what you think I know or dont know you may want to think of who is in charge in all these places all these players are claiming Social Injustice exist.

You know where these places are, I believe you live in one. You should know who is in charge.

So go ahead and act enlightened but as far as I am concerned you are dumber than these players complaining about being ****ed by their own.

Holy shit you are stupid.....

displacedinMN · 07-19-2018, 08:02 AM

Talking about it on the radio today. Michelle Tafoya is on KQRS Minneapolis in the mornings.

The other host Tom Barnard said "What if the network just does not show the anthem or any of the protests?"

She said "We have to document what we see. If someone is doing this-we show it. We have to."

It will be posted on KQRS soon. Started talking about it about 8:35 am.

It sounds like Tafoya is tired of the whole thing too.

**loochy** · 07-19-2018, 08:05 AM

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She said "We have to document what we see. If someone is doing this-we show it. We have to."

No, you don't. It's just like how they never show field streakers.
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displacedinMN · 07-19-2018, 08:08 AM

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No, you don't. It's just like how they never show field streakers.
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NBC.

They could stop showing the anthem or just show the flag for a minute.

Strongside · 07-19-2018, 08:09 AM

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No, you don't. It's just like how they never show field streakers.
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Great comparison.

Networks be like: “we will not show fans that run into the field. We don’t want to glorify criminals.”

Also networks: “Here’s 50 photos and the life story of this mass shooter. We have to show this!”

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Strongside Mahomes or GTFO Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: KC Casino cash: $4314282	These protests have moved past the point of “shedding light on one’s community.” They represent something drastically different to the general public now. The original message has been so muddied up that it’s become moot. My issue is that I’ve not heard one person explain to me what the end game is. What’s the desired outcome? “Shedding light on your community” is great, but what do you WANT to see happen to satisfy your protest? Protests are the sister of demand. If you can’t clearly, or even loosely, define what your demands are, then your protest is simply an act of rebellion. Rebellion is fine, but it’s no way to shift public perception or opinion without a stated goal. The one thing that irked me abou Peters’ protests last year is that he REFUSED to talk about it. If you’re trying to raise awareness, but then you don’t use your voice in your unique public stage, that’s a huge miss. It comes off as incredibly self-serving. __________________
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displacedinMN In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Correcting papers Casino cash: $-850000	Talking about it on the radio today. Michelle Tafoya is on KQRS Minneapolis in the mornings. The other host Tom Barnard said "What if the network just does not show the anthem or any of the protests?" She said "We have to document what we see. If someone is doing this-we show it. We have to." It will be posted on KQRS soon. Started talking about it about 8:35 am. It sounds like Tafoya is tired of the whole thing too. __________________ #investigatecarlcheffers
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