Captain Marvel

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by Fish

I had issues with it, but mostly just from a comic-source standpoint. The original Mar-Vell character(Original Captain Marvel) was really important to Carol Danvers' character backstory, and they changed that very dramatically and it turned out pretty shitty. They morphed a lot of the Ms. Marvel story line into the Captain Marvel story, and again from knowing the comics, it felt like a pretty cheap and lazy way to go about it. I really really hated the way they made the Skrulls into some poor sob story immigrant storyline, because that shits all over many different comic runs. I'm just hoping maybe they tie in some awesome Secret Invasion type of storyline twist to explain it all, otherwise this just doesn't quite sit right with the overall story arc. Also, I thought Brie Larson's acting was a bit flat. Not terrible, just unemotional and odd.

I didn't know you were a comic geek...

I don't like modern Captain Marvel. I don't like what they've done to Danvers over the years, and the movie was as flat and boring as I expected. They've stripped all humanity from the character by trying to make her iconic. Iconic just happens. You can't MAKE it happen. Most of the time relateable flaws are what create that iconic status in context of the times in which they rise to fame. Trying to make someone too perfect.... meh. It comes off like the self insert of a narcissistic writer.

Yes about the Skrulls and Kree. Everything about that annoyed TF outta me. You know why.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

I didn't know you were a comic geek...

I don't like modern Captain Marvel. I don't like what they've done to Danvers over the years, and the movie was as flat and boring as I expected. They've stripped all humanity from the character by trying to make her iconic. Iconic just happens. You can't MAKE it happen. Most of the time relateable flaws are what create that iconic status in context of the times in which they rise to fame. Trying to make someone too perfect.... meh. It comes off like the self insert of a narcissistic writer.

Yes about the Skrulls and Kree. Everything about that annoyed TF outta me. You know why.

That's exactly it. Carol Danvers' Ms./Captain Marvel was never written to be an iconic lead hero. It felt so forced that it annoyed me. Someone trying to force the plot without sufficiently investing the viewer into why that's important or necessary. Just forced virtue signalling to replace actual plot. And it didn't work for me.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by Fish

That's exactly it. Carol Danvers' Ms./Captain Marvel was never written to be an iconic lead hero. It felt so forced that it annoyed me. Someone trying to force the plot without sufficiently investing the viewer into why that's important or necessary. Just forced virtue signalling to replace actual plot. And it didn't work for me.

Well, in the comics they've been trying to make her THE flagship character for like 15 years. Gave her the butch haircut and had her start acting hyper masculine. Started removing her flaws, and just presented her as 'the best marvel character' in spite of her lagging popularity. 11 cancellations due to low sales do not dissuade them from this pursuit.

She's a completely different character than the one I grew up with, but hey... the movie was a big financial success, so hopefully they FINALLY found an audience for her.

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Well, in the comics they've been trying to make her THE flagship character for like 15 years. Gave her the butch haircut and had her start acting hyper masculine. Started removing her flaws, and just presented her as 'the best marvel character' in spite of her lagging popularity. 11 cancellations due to low sales do not dissuade them from this pursuit.

She's a completely different character than the one I grew up with, but hey... the movie was a big financial success, so hopefully they FINALLY found an audience for her.

Marvel Comics have been a shit show for a long time. If they hadn't started in on the epic string of movies, which until very recently had nothing to do with the SJW nonsense, Marvel would likely have gone under without drastic change.

Instead, they are now in process of changing the movies to match the modern comic nonsense.

[Mennonite]

What does it say about our culture when our "culture wars" are about reeruned comic book movies?

[Setsuna]

Originally Posted by Mennonite

What does it say about our culture when our "culture wars" are about reeruned comic book movies?

Culture wars aren't OUR culture. It's a small minority of people with access to social media capable of reaching millions. The vast majority of society stays out of this cesspool.