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Old 09-16-2018, 02:31 PM  
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**** BOB SUTTON
That's it.
You got major upgrades in the front seven. The corners were not the problem today. Guys running free underneath all ****ing day. NO PASS RUSH, rushing two and three guys and Steeler receivers STILL RUNNING FREE UNDERNEATH. Everytime we blitzed, we rushed the throw. Everytime we didn't, Roethlisberger had all ****ing day. No excuse to rush two and three against a HOF QB.

You got younger, and faster. It's not all on the players. It's the scheme. It leaves the defense on the field until they're gassed and give up the big play.

If the scheme is too complicated for your secondary to run, then CHANGE THE SCHEME.

You have an offense that can score at will. Play aggressive and make them match you big play for big play. blitz, pressure, force them to make a big play or a mistake. Sitting back in loose zones all day is NOT WORKING.

**** Sutton.
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Old 10-08-2018, 06:26 PM   #346
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Bob Sutton is a good D coordinator. People are stupid.
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Old 10-08-2018, 06:29 PM   #347
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Let's engage in a thought experiment, Mr. ping2000.

Let's imagine that you are a pioneer and you are heading westward in your brand-new, covered wagon. Your young, beautiful wife and your infant child are in the back and you are driving the wagon. Now, let's say that your young, beautiful wife starts complaining incessantly about how long it's taking to arrive in California territory. You suddenly realize that there's a good chance that your young, beautiful wife doesn't really like the West and will likely divorce you as soon as you reach a decent-sized town. You also notice that one of the horses in your four-hitch is slower than all the others, okay?

Some people would encourage you to tell your wife to hush and behave herself rather than teach your child how to whine like a bitch. Others might suggest instead that you take your gun and shoot the slow horse. Still others might argue that the best course of action is to shoot yourself in the face.

The Chiefs' defensive problems are a lot like that.

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Old 10-08-2018, 06:32 PM   #348
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Old 10-08-2018, 06:43 PM   #349
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Holy shit. If you say Bob Sutton isn't a great coach you are a reerun. You really believe there isn't any better coordinator out there? Why is it so bad to want BOTH a better coach AND better talent? Holy crap, not trying to start a war, but you guys are pretty ****ing sensitive. Sorry to offend the board experts.
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Old 10-08-2018, 06:49 PM   #350
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The only continuous theme with Sutton is that as Pioli's players aged and they were replaced by Dorsey's drafts, the defense got worse and worse.

You simply cannot watch this team over the last 5 years and come to any other conclusion.

Unless of course you have no idea what you're actually watching.
I, for one, am tired of drafting "projects" and hoping they'll work out. No argument there. Just draft ****ing guys that play well AT THEIR POSITION and quit trying to be so goddamned clever.
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Old 10-08-2018, 06:55 PM   #351
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Holy shit. If you say Bob Sutton isn't a great coach you are a reerun. You really believe there isn't any better coordinator out there? Why is it so bad to want BOTH a better coach AND better talent? Holy crap, not trying to start a war, but you guys are pretty ****ing sensitive. Sorry to offend the board experts.
It's very simple - you are putting WAY too much emphasis on coaching. I'm not saying Sutton is good or bad, I'm saying he's irrelevant. A good coach CANNOT make a bad unit good. It's impossible.

Until they fix the personnel on this defense, there isn't a coach on the face of the planet that can fix things.
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Old 10-08-2018, 07:04 PM   #353
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Holy shit. If you say Bob Sutton isn't a great coach you are a reerun. You really believe there isn't any better coordinator out there? Why is it so bad to want BOTH a better coach AND better talent? Holy crap, not trying to start a war, but you guys are pretty ****ing sensitive. Sorry to offend the board experts.
So wait.. you are a reerun if you think there is NOT ONE OTHER PERSON that can coach this D to something other than last ****ing place??
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Old 10-08-2018, 07:11 PM   #354
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So wait.. you are a reerun if you think there is NOT ONE OTHER PERSON that can coach this D to something other than last ****ing place??
I think you misread my post. Others on here have stated there isn't anyone better than Sutton out there. I disagree with that. I'm just going to leave this thread now.
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Old 10-08-2018, 07:14 PM   #355
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So wait.. you are a reerun if you think there is NOT ONE OTHER PERSON that can coach this D to something other than last ****ing place??
First of all, this defense isn't in "last place". It's 20th in points allowed, which is the defensive stat that really matters.

Secondly, what is "improvement"? Taking this defense from where it is now to "respectable" is an appreciable leap and no, there is no defensive coordinator out there now that can do that. Sorry.
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Old 10-08-2018, 07:15 PM   #356
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So wait.. you are a reerun if you think there is NOT ONE OTHER PERSON that can coach this D to something other than last ****ing place??
Yes. That is exactly what he is saying.

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Yes. That is exactly what he is saying.

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I mean, it makes sense FAX. You're talking about a fanbase that hasn't sniffed a Super Bowl in 30+ years blaming Greg Robinson for ruining 2003. Meanwhile, Neil Smith is at home polishing his Super Bowl ring that he won with GREG ROBINSON.

Players make plays. Sometimes the obvious is just too obvious.
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He has two Super Bowl rings. I'm guessing he couldn't care less about how many of those stupid lists he's on or how you feel about him.
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