**** BOB SUTTON

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

It's very simple - you are putting WAY too much emphasis on coaching. I'm not saying Sutton is good or bad, I'm saying he's irrelevant. A good coach CANNOT make a bad unit good. It's impossible.

Until they fix the personnel on this defense, there isn't a coach on the face of the planet that can fix things.

You are correct to a certain extent. You're correct in that a great coordinator can't make bad talent into a great defense. That being said, I believe a great coordinator can make a mediocre defense good and a good defensive coordinator can make a good defense great. So by that measure, the coordinator is not irrelevant.

As for this current crop of talent, I believe that a couple of changes could make a drastic improvement. A healthy Berry and a better player to replace Terrance Smith (#48) would do just that, IMO. Is the rookie Dorian O'Daniel that player? I don't know but I hope so. Still, rookies take time to learn to play at this level, to stop thinking all the time and just play. That's also, IMO, a big part of the reason that Speaks hasn't shown much as of yet. But he looked better against the Jags than he has in any game so far. That says to me that he's getting better. People just need to be patient. I think we have some decent young talent that will start to show up a lot more in the 2nd half of the season.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Lzen

You are correct to a certain extent. You're correct in that a great coordinator can't make bad talent into a great defense. That being said, I believe a great coordinator can make a mediocre defense good and a good defensive coordinator can make a good defense great. So by that measure, the coordinator is not irrelevant.

But this isn't a mediocre defense. It's actually pretty bad. Replace Terrance Smith and Reggie Ragland and if the defense is still this bad, fire Sutton. Go for it. But right now, getting rid of Sutton isn't solving anything.

Furthermore, they can't just bring anyone in. Andy is sitting on the bench talking to Mahomes while the defense is on the field. He's COMPLETELY hands off. You've got to make a change like this in the offseason.