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Old 11-20-2018, 08:31 AM   #1
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Reid's play calling has improved a lot this year. Obviously, a lot of that has to do with a great quarterback being able to make plays and thus make the play call look good, but to Reid's credit he has abandoned the sideways offense and he has been somewhat better about not going ultra-conservative when we have a lead.

Nothing to complain about last night with respect to play calling.
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Old 11-20-2018, 08:35 AM   #2
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Reid's play calling has improved a lot this year. Obviously, a lot of that has to do with a great quarterback being able to make plays and thus make the play call look good, but to Reid's credit he has abandoned the sideways offense and he has been somewhat better about not going ultra-conservative when we have a lead.

Nothing to complain about last night with respect to play calling.
I absolutely hated the last drive playcalling. Less than a minute and we throw several designed short throws to kelce straight up the middle.
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Old 11-20-2018, 09:39 AM   #3
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I absolutely hated the last drive playcalling. Less than a minute and we throw several designed short throws to kelce straight up the middle.
Same here. It started with a bad decision by Hill to return the ball on the punt. Sure, he wants to make a play and he is a great returner but the best thing to do is to let the ball go into the endzone to leave as much time as possible on the clock as well as to make sure that you have a decent field position.

Then, the short throw playcalling to me were just another proof that Reid is clueless when it comes to clock management. I could be wrong though but if that is Reid calling short throw stuff, that's just bad.
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Old 11-20-2018, 09:28 AM   #4
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Reid's play calling has improved a lot this year. Obviously, a lot of that has to do with a great quarterback being able to make plays and thus make the play call look good, but to Reid's credit he has abandoned the sideways offense and he has been somewhat better about not going ultra-conservative when we have a lead.

Nothing to complain about last night with respect to play calling.
His play calling after we had 1st and goal at the 8 (1st possession in the 2nd Qtr) was terrible. Back to back options plays possibly cost us 4 points and nearly got Mahomes killed.
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Old 11-20-2018, 09:29 AM   #5
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His play calling after we had 1st and goal at the 8 (1st possession in the 2nd Qtr) was terrible. Back to back options plays possibly cost us 4 points and nearly got Mahomes killed.
I'd have to go back and check, but I thought the first one was an audible by Mahomes. Did anyone else think that?
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Old 11-23-2018, 02:41 AM   #6
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Nothing to complain about last night with respect to play calling.
I disagree. We had the ball like, what, on the two yardline, and he called two option plays that ran parallel to the goal line.

We have a high powered offense, with a back like Hunt, a tight end like Kelce, a speedster like Hill, and an "Offensive Genius" calling plays, and that genius couldn't call a better play to get the ball into the endzone?

And as the game went on, except for one TD pass to Hunt, we really failed to use the defense's aggressiveness against them. Some of the plays that led to sacks and pressure on Mahomes didn't even have crossing routes, or a safety valve in the flats.

Reid called a lot of plays that had routes which took time to develop. Time the offensive line could not deliver.

Reid was obviously aware that we had second string, and third string, backup offensive linemen trying to block the best defensive player in the NFL. Not only were we trying to block Donald with backups, but Reid saw the game tape from the previous week where Seattle ran all over the Rams, negating some of Donald's dominance. But did Reid take any cues from that Seattle game? No.

Did our offense score 44 points? Yes. But was the play calling without error? HELL NO. And Reid also showed once again that he doesn't have the ability to manage the clock at the end of games.

Overall, the Chiefs played great offensively, and it does seem silly to suggest that a team that scored 44 points on offense could have done better, but the truth is the play calling could have been better.

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Old 11-20-2018, 08:38 AM   #7
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�� Of the complaints related to Mahomes go to the patchwork offensive line. The Rams pass rush is better than our pass pro. The Chiefs are at least even with the Rams when we ran the ball... Andy needed to stick with the running game.
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Old 11-20-2018, 11:28 PM   #8
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�� Of the complaints related to Mahomes go to the patchwork offensive line. The Rams pass rush is better than our pass pro. The Chiefs are at least even with the Rams when we ran the ball... Andy needed to stick with the running game.
we're better than the Rams - If you don't see that - I can't help ya.
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Old 11-20-2018, 09:56 AM   #9
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I guess my point is, when the D line is badass, and the secondary is shit, then 5 and 7 step drop back pass plays when there isn't much time left really isn't the best idea. The D line just pinned their ears back. Having Hunt as an option, or some quick screens would slow that rush down some. Still a great plan overall. Just not the last 2 minutes
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Old 11-20-2018, 10:28 AM   #10
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I refuse to listen to complaints about play calling when the Chiefs put 51 points on the board.

I'd be pleased to listen to discussion and comment about defensive decisions when the team gives up 54.
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Old 11-20-2018, 12:21 PM   #11
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I refuse to listen to complaints about play calling when the Chiefs put 51 points on the board.

I'd be pleased to listen to discussion and comment about defensive decisions when the team gives up 54.
Well, the defense sucks, so it would be a long conversation
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Old 11-20-2018, 07:03 PM   #12
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I refuse to listen to complaints about play calling when the Chiefs put 51 points on the board.

I'd be pleased to listen to discussion and comment about defensive decisions when the team gives up 54.
Yeah.

Those 5 turnovers had no impact on the 54 points scored.

They were all scored on long offensive drives... right?
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Old 11-23-2018, 12:00 PM   #13
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I refuse to listen to complaints about play calling when the Chiefs put 51 points on the board.

I'd be pleased to listen to discussion and comment about defensive decisions when the team gives up 54.
The problem is that KC's offense scored some of those 54 FOR the Rams.
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Old 11-20-2018, 12:29 PM   #14
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Great game. I'm very encouraged moving forward with this team. Lost on the road, by 3 pts, to one of the best offenses in the league. And, had a chance to end it with a dropped INT and a drive with 1:50 to go. I'll take it.

However, Andy Reid mentioned he could've called better plays in the game, and I couldn't agree more. Particularly on the second from last drive. Chiefs get the ball back with 1:50 to go, down by 3 and all 3 timeouts, Rams have none. They get the ball to the 45 ish with a pass to Tyreek with about 1:20 left if I remember correctly, and still 3 timeouts and the clock stopped. They need maybe 20 yards to be in FG range, but obviously want a TD for the win.

Next play is the play where Mahomes is hit as he throws and it's picked by Peters. When the strength of the defense is the D line and it's rush, why not use the screen, draw, WR screens, bubbles, etc to work down the field instead of having Mahomes drop back with nothing but slow developing plays? I'm guessing that's what Andy is talking about. I know, you can second guess anything, but I was watching and thinking, don't try to get it all right here. Next play, game over. Frustrating. I'd think having Hunt in the mix at the end, with high percentage passes would have been the way to go rather than 5-7 step drop plays. Anyhow, great game. Chiefs gonna end up 14-2 with HVA throughout.
Yep - The second Mahomes TD was a bad decision by Mahomes - but that play call was really bad at the time - they aren't even that far out of FG range with TOs - Use the middle of the field or screens and have a deep option. EVERY option on that play was at least 25 yards down the field. Really bad play call.
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They need to cool it on the 5 wide.

I feel like it's starting to hurt the team more than help.
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