Injury update [everyone's up except DOD]

[bricks]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

The **** is wrong with you people? We can beat the Pats with or without DOD, Ware, EB and LDT.

Patrick ****ing Mahomes is going to take it to these assholes

Yes but having Berry gives them better matchups and allows the D to create more pressure with their front 4.

We need him to help take away Gronk in the passing game. There is no better player on the roster to do that than Berry. Hopefully he is healthy enough and in the proper shape to do it.


Plus, also having Fuller is gonna be a big factor. I'd line him up in the slot to take out Edelmen. There is no other better slot corner in this league that I'd have face Edelmen than Fuller.


Its the Edelmens and the Gronks we gotta worry about in this one. Dangerous weapons bro.


I think the key is playing those two in press man to man coverage schemes and let the front 4 pressure Brady. Hopefully Sutton does that this Sunday. I would like to see that.

Yeah Mahomes makes a lot of us feel confident I get that, but that confidence is taken to greater heights the more fully equipped we will be to beat these guys. That's how I see it.

[jjchieffan]

Originally Posted by bricks

Yes but having Berry gives them better matchups and allows the D to create more pressure with their front 4.

We need him to help take away Gronk in the passing game. There is no better player on the roster to do that than Berry. Hopefully he is healthy enough and in the proper shape to do it.

lus, also having Fuller is gonna be a big factor. I'd line him up in the slot to take out Edelmen. There is no other better slot corner in this league that I'd have face Edelmen than Fuller.


Its the Edelmens and the Gronks we gotta worry about in this one. Dangerous weapons bro.


I think the key is playing those two in press man to man coverage schemes and let the front 4 pressure Brady. Hopefully Sutton does that this Sunday. I would like to see that.

Yeah Mahomes makes a lot of us feel confident I get that, but that confidence is taken to greater heights the more fully equipped we will be to beat these guys. That's how I see it.

Not attacking you specifically, but I keep hearing everyone talking about Edelman and Gronk. But nobody seems to be concerned about White. White just destroyed the Chargers last week. He had something like 15 catches, which tied a postseason record. Someone better be in his hip pocket the whole time. If Berry is on Gronk, and Fuller is on Edelman, then Sorenson or Lucas better be on White.

[YayMike]

Originally Posted by jjchieffan

Not attacking you specifically, but I keep hearing everyone talking about Edelman and Gronk. But nobody seems to be concerned about White. White just destroyed the Chargers last week. He had something like 15 catches, which tied a postseason record. Someone better be in his hip pocket the whole time. If Berry is on Gronk, and Fuller is on Edelman, then Sorenson or Lucas better be on White.

This is where I wish DOD was healthy...he was drafted literally for this type of situation!!!

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by jjchieffan

Not attacking you specifically, but I keep hearing everyone talking about Edelman and Gronk. But nobody seems to be concerned about White. White just destroyed the Chargers last week. He had something like 15 catches, which tied a postseason record. Someone better be in his hip pocket the whole time. If Berry is on Gronk, and Fuller is on Edelman, then Sorenson or Lucas better be on White.

Dude - who exactly are you listening to?

EVERYONE is terrified of White. Like literally anyone I've spoken to or listened to opine on the subject have all mentioned the very real possibility that James White fist-****s us on Sunday.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by bricks

Yes but having Berry gives them better matchups and allows the D to create more pressure with their front 4.

We need him to help take away Gronk in the passing game. There is no better player on the roster to do that than Berry. Hopefully he is healthy enough and in the proper shape to do it.


Plus, also having Fuller is gonna be a big factor. I'd line him up in the slot to take out Edelmen. There is no other better slot corner in this league that I'd have face Edelmen than Fuller.


Its the Edelmens and the Gronks we gotta worry about in this one. Dangerous weapons bro.


I think the key is playing those two in press man to man coverage schemes and let the front 4 pressure Brady. Hopefully Sutton does that this Sunday. I would like to see that.

And Ward is FAR better in man coverage, press-man specifically, than he is in zone or even off-man coverages.

He's absolutely capable of straight up shutting down Hogan. Dorsett might give him trouble on double moves and beat him a time or two, but that's where the pass rush has to punish Brady and prevent him from having the time/space to step into a throw to a route that requires time to develop.

Fuller will slide inside on Nickel sets, as he has all season, and he'll be tasked with sticking to Edelman - like you, I think he'll be up for it. Nelson will get beat a time or two, do his job a time or two and hopefully simply not be a factor in the outcome either way.

It's gonna come down to A) avoiding picks/rubs and B) hanging with White just long enough. Without DoD, Hitchens is probably our best bet and that's only vaguely terrifying. Alternatively you trust Berry there (figuring that he's likely going to be coming downhill in run support anyway) and have Hitchens on the shell of Gronk - really not a bad idea.

Everything - I mean absolutely everything - about this balance sheet says that the Chiefs match up extremely well against the Patriots. It's 100% boogeyman shit from Bill Belichick that has me nervous and nothing else. BB is the only thing that can win this game for NE. Either he pulls a rabbit out of his hat and has those guys playing well above their true talent level or the Pats lose by double digits.

The Chiefs are a much more talented team with matchup advantages all over the field.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He's absolutely capable of straight up shutting down Hogan.

Which would have won the October game by the way.

Down the stretch they shut down Edelman and Hogan killed them. Then Shaw ended up on Gronk and game over.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Which would have won the October game by the way.

Down the stretch they shut down Edelman and Hogan killed them. Then Shaw ended up on Gronk and game over.

I mean if only the Patriots wouldn't have played a perfect, penalty free game that totally and seriously didn't have a single penalty committed by the home team.

Darn our luck, man...

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I mean if only the Patriots wouldn't have played a perfect, penalty free game that totally and seriously didn't have a single penalty committed by the home team.

Darn our luck, man...

LOL - Zero penalties for the Pats in a game that had 71 total passes throw by both teams. No offensive holding, not def holding or PI's.........LMFAO!

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

LOL - Zero penalties for the Pats in a game that had 71 total passes throw by both teams. No offensive holding, not def holding or PI's.........LMFAO!

Where a RB was literally tackled right in front of an official as the ball was being delivered in his general direction. I'm sure the zebra knew that the ball was going to the player behind him and just had the foresight to keep the flag in his pocket.

That game was such a joke.

[Imon Yourside]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

LOL - Zero penalties for the Pats in a game that had 71 total passes throw by both teams. No offensive holding, not def holding or PI's.........LMFAO!

Yet Kelce was tackled in the End zone.

[siberian khatru]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's 100% boogeyman shit from Bill Belichick that has me nervous and nothing else. BB is the only thing that can win this game for NE. Either he pulls a rabbit out of his hat and has those guys playing well above their true talent level or the Pats lose by double digits.

I told someone the other day that BB probably will pick up on film that Ward turns his hips a quarter-inch the wrong way on certain routes, and he'll exploit that to burn him deep repeatedly.