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Old 01-20-2019, 09:33 PM  
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Why is Mahomes incapable of running a 4 minute offense

Yeah yeah yeah defense sucks ass and Mahomes got us to OT. Cool, I don't give a flying ****. Mahomes and Andy have serious ****ing issues they need to fix. And to be frank I think it's a Mahomes issue more than an Andy one. He seems obsessed with the deep ball even when we very clearly don't need it or want it. Like he literally threw bomb after bomb on our second to last drive and one of those bombs almost got picked.

I love Mahomes as much as anyone else, but I'm hoping this isn't some weird Favre like bullshit that plagues his career forever. Hopefully Andy can drill him into being a smarter QB.
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Old 01-21-2019, 05:40 PM   #166
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Some of who you are being a little dismissive about the idea of milking the clock seem to forget about all the times QBs like Manning or Brady have engineered perfect game winning drives against us that used pretty much all the clock.

It's probably more on Reid than Mahomes. But I feel pretty sure savvy veteran QBs know how to get a 4 minute drive when they need one. And if they can it's pretty valuable skill to have.
Sure. A 4 min drive would have been great, but when you aren't running the ball well, and you can't protect the QB very well, and most importantly you are behind in the score, you take whatever they give you whenever it happens. We got down to the 1 yd line on a big play. What the hell are we supposed to do at that point?
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Old 01-21-2019, 05:44 PM   #167
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Old 01-21-2019, 05:52 PM   #168
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Some of who you are being a little dismissive about the idea of milking the clock seem to forget about all the times QBs like Manning or Brady have engineered perfect game winning drives against us that used pretty much all the clock.

It's probably more on Reid than Mahomes. But I feel pretty sure savvy veteran QBs know how to get a 4 minute drive when they need one. And if they can it's pretty valuable skill to have.
Yet, very few can be as explosive and score as quick.

He procured the lead late in the game. That's his job.

'nuff said.
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Old 01-21-2019, 05:55 PM   #169
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Yet, very few can be as explosive and score as quick.

He procured the lead late in the game. That's his job.

'nuff said.
Even better, he told the team at half-time they were going to go out and score 30 in the 2nd half, he was undershooting by 1.

THAT is a ****ing beast of a man.
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Old 01-21-2019, 05:57 PM   #170
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Even better, he told the team at half-time they were going to go out and score 30 in the 2nd half, he was undershooting by 1.

THAT is a ****ing beast of a man.
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Old 01-21-2019, 06:01 PM   #171
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I can't believe it... Our fanbase has reached new levels of stupidity. We have people on here actually complaining about having the league MVP as our QB and him scoring to go ahead in the biggest game of the year. I've seen stupidity but not quite like this. THE DEFENSE ARE PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES AND NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

Years of disappointments has clearly driven many insane.
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Old 01-21-2019, 06:35 PM   #172
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Changing my take:
This board accepting a lack of clock management down the stretch is the reason why this city can't win. You don't demand fucking excellence. I blame stupid fans that think it's okay to give Brady the last possession with 2 minutes. Another market would have flayed Reid for that sh*t.
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Old 01-21-2019, 06:37 PM   #173
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This board accepting a lack of clock management down the stretch is the reason why this city can't win. You don't demand ****ing excellence. I blame stupid fans that think it's okay to give Brady the last possession with 2 minutes. Another market would have flayed Reid for that shit.
Ridiculous take. Defenders get paid too.
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Old 01-21-2019, 06:40 PM   #174
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Let's frame it this way:
Surely everyone here agrees that Mahomes and the offense had a better chance of winning this game at the end. We know who our defense is. Wouldn't you rather play to your strength?
I'd have rather lost with the offense on the field than with the defense. Period.
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Old 01-21-2019, 06:40 PM   #175
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This board accepting a lack of clock management down the stretch is the reason why this city can't win. You don't demand ****ing excellence. I blame stupid fans that think it's okay to give Brady the last possession with 2 minutes. Another market would have flayed Reid for that sh*t.
This is maybe the dumbest post I've ever read.

Shut the **** up, for your own sake.
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Let's frame it this way:
Surely everyone here agrees that Mahomes and the offense had a better chance of winning this game at the end. We know who our defense is. Wouldn't you rather play to your strength?
I'd have rather lost with the offense on the field than with the defense. Period.
I mean yeah, in a perfect world. We were leading the game with two minutes to go. All the defense had to do was make a stop or not line up offsides, and we win. They couldn't manage it, and we ultimately lost.

Mahomes is the reason we were in a position to win, he's sure the **** not the reason we lost. Stop blaming him or that side of the ball.
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This is maybe the dumbest post I've ever read.
Clearly you don't read your own...
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I mean yeah, in a perfect world. We were leading the game with two minutes to go. All the defense had to do was make a stop or not line up offsides, and we win. They couldn't manage it, and we ultimately lost.

Mahomes is the reason we were in a position to win, he's sure the **** not the reason we lost. Stop blaming him or that side of the ball.
In a perfect world?? When you have the ball you can create the perfect world. It's not up to chance to run some plays that burn some clock. I'm not blaming Mahomes!!! I'm blaming the play calling
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Old 01-21-2019, 06:52 PM   #179
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Good one.

I'M not the one blaming a message board for a loss. Idiot
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Old 01-21-2019, 07:04 PM   #180
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I don't understand how this is so difficult to understand. In basketball, you get the ball back with 20 seconds left at half court and you are ahead by one point. You don't score right away, you let the clock run a bit and try to score with a few seconds left. That puts the other side in a bad position where its tough to come back.

Here, we are talking minutes instead of seconds but the same concept applies. Yes you want to score and that is the first priority but you can waste the clock by methodically moving down the field. We gave them a bunch of time and plenty of timeouts to go get a touchdown. Every time they needed to score, they did. They got stopped early on when they had the lead but when they needed it, they kept converting. You can't trust your defense to stop them.
Again, look at how the Patriots win so many of their games. They waste the clock when they need to and give the other team hardly any time to go get back the lead. It's the formula for their multiple Super Bowl appearances and wins.

If it's earlier in the game, hell yeah push the ball down the field, get ahead and put the pressure on the other team. When you are in the last part of the game, you have to play the clock. If you don't, you lose. It's exactly how we lost this game, it's how we lost the last Patriots game, it's how we lost the Rams game. How many losses do we need to have this way before people can see it's a problem?
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