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Old 03-12-2019, 11:05 PM   #1
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The only loss that might hurt us in the immediate future is Ford, but the defense was already pathetic even with him.
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:09 PM   #2
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The only loss that might hurt us in the immediate future is Ford, but the defense was already pathetic even with him.
At worst our 31st defense this year will be paid like a 31st defense.

And I don't think that will be the case.

With Ford and Houston gone we gained 30 million in cap and a 2nd round pick.
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:17 PM   #3
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The only loss that might hurt us in the immediate future is Ford, but the defense was already pathetic even with him.
Yeah, it's sort of like Snow White mourning the loss of the tallest dwarf.
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:18 PM   #4
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The only loss that might hurt us in the immediate future is Ford, but the defense was already pathetic even with him.
It's going to be more pathetic if we don't do anything else.

Houston was a top-3 defensive player for us last year. He held the edge and got to the QB. He was very solid on a really shitty defense. Ford wasn't solid but he was wild and productive.

Putting up top-7 pass rushing numbers this year MAKES Dee Ford a top defensive pass rusher in the NFL. That's the way it works.

Ford put up better numbers than Khalil Mack and we traded him for a 2nd round pick next year when we don't know where it will be. At least this year it would have been the 2nd pick of the round.
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:22 PM   #5
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It's going to be more pathetic if we don't do anything else.

Houston was a top-3 defensive player for us last year. He held the edge and got to the QB. He was very solid on a really shitty defense. Ford wasn't solid but he was wild and productive.

Putting up top-7 pass rushing numbers this year MAKES Dee Ford a top defensive pass rusher in the NFL. That's the way it works.

Ford put up better numbers than Khalil Mack and we traded him for a 2nd round pick next year when we don't know where it will be. At least this year it would have been the 2nd pick of the round.
Mack has put up double digit sacks every year he's been in the league. Comparing him to Dee Ford is freaking laughably ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:24 PM   #6
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It's going to be more pathetic if we don't do anything else.

Houston was a top-3 defensive player for us last year. He held the edge and got to the QB. He was very solid on a really shitty defense. Ford wasn't solid but he was wild and productive.

Putting up top-7 pass rushing numbers this year MAKES Dee Ford a top defensive pass rusher in the NFL. That's the way it works.

Ford put up better numbers than Khalil Mack and we traded him for a 2nd round pick next year when we don't know where it will be. At least this year it would have been the 2nd pick of the round.
lol are you trying to say that you'd rather have Ford than Mack because Ford had more sacks last year? Mack is a top 3 defensive player in the league and changes games.
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:18 PM   #7
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Much better.

1) The Defensive coaching staff went from one of the worst in the league to one of the best.

2) Ford and Houston...could you really count on them again? Especially at 30+ million in cap space? Ford took 5 years to produce. He's often injured and disappeared against good lines. Houston is 30 and hasn't played a full season since his big contract year.

3) Their replacements are likely on the roster in Kpass and Speaks. They haven't proven anything but are 4-3 DE's. This coaching staff and front office were trying to put them at OLB and they didn't fit. Kpass showed promise at rushing the pass rusher but looked lost at coverage and he won't have to do that. Still need depth.

4) Chris Jones is going to be an absolute beast in this scheme. He only has to play 1 gap now. He's my dark horse Defensive MVP next year.

5) Hitchens and DoD are much better fits in this defense as well.

6) Honey Badger fills the biggest need by far on this team. I'd like to see EB gone and sign Boston.

7) The CB position needs improvement obviously but I'm sure that will get taken care of shortly.

The offense will largely remain the same baring injury. I don't think they will need to score as many points this year to win so they may step back statistically, but still remain very efficient.
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:19 PM   #8
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How about we wait until after the draft for this, yeah? Seems pretty moronic to try and determine this when the team isn’t done making moves.
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:37 PM   #9
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Make it out to be whatever you want. You've decided already.

Just like Veach is a genius and Dorsey was a fraud.
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:40 PM   #10
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Make it out to be whatever you want. You've decided already.

Just like Veach is a genius and Dorsey was a fraud.
Dorsey isn't a fraud - he's just terrible at retaining talent and negotiating their contracts.

Veach has been here one year. I like what I've seen but he's only been here one year...
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Old 03-13-2019, 12:13 AM   #11
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Dorsey isn't a fraud - he's just terrible at retaining talent and negotiating their contracts.

Veach has been here one year. I like what I've seen but he's only been here one year...
Yeah that 2018 draft of his sure was somethin', wasn't it?
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Old 03-13-2019, 12:19 AM   #12
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Yeah that 2018 draft of his sure was somethin', wasn't it?
We don't know. It's been one year.

But we'll have 3 starters on defense this year from that draft.

Do we get to consider our 1st round pick Mahomes?...
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Yeah that 2018 draft of his sure was somethin', wasn't it?
Says the man with a talent evaluation repertoire/competence equal with Pioli?
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Dorsey isn't a fraud - he's just terrible at retaining talent and negotiating their contracts.

Veach has been here one year. I like what I've seen but he's only been here one year...
Why?


Watkins 3/$48MM = 40/519/3 while playing in 10 of 16 games
Hitchens 5/$45MM = 132ypg/5ypa
Reggie Ragland = see above
Speaks = LOL (and we traded up for this LOL)

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