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Old 04-25-2019, 09:15 PM   #1
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If he's an abuser?

Why did he go in the fifth round of the draft again?
He took a plea. The matter was later expunged.

We all know he has a history. We know that history "can" be repeated. It doesn't "have" to be repeated, though. That's why we have words like rehabilitation and stuff like that.

Nonetheless, parsing non-contextual words in order to score PlanetPoints is unseemly. Either stand up and debate like a man or piss yourself.

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Old 04-25-2019, 09:23 PM   #2
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He took a plea. The matter was later expunged.

We all know he has a history. We know that history "can" be repeated. It doesn't "have" to be repeated, though. That's why we have words like rehabilitation and stuff like that.

Nonetheless, parsing non-contextual words in order to score PlanetPoints is unseemly. Either stand up and debate like a man or piss yourself.

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I have. You're the one saying that you wouldn't defend an abuser while continually defending someone who has admitted to abusing a woman and who doesn't even deny abusing his child on audio.

Maybe you should actually listen to the audio, which you clearly hadn't, before continuing to expose yourself as even more of a fool.

But yeah, it's the kid who's a whiny bitch and you're just rationally evaluating all of this absent biases.
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Old 04-25-2019, 09:37 PM   #3
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I have. You're the one saying that you wouldn't defend an abuser while continually defending someone who has admitted to abusing a woman and who doesn't even deny abusing his child on audio.

Maybe you should actually listen to the audio, which you clearly hadn't, before continuing to expose yourself as even more of a fool.

But yeah, it's the kid who's a whiny bitch and you're just rationally evaluating all of this absent biases.
Jesus ... did you get stupid, too?

If you can't hold still long enough to read a book or commune with the aethers, simply watch "The Exorcist". Pay particular attention to the girl with the twisty head that turned green and whined like a bitch when she wasn't vomiting chunks and cursing priests in Latin.

I'm telling you, that sort of behavior puts a strain on the family dynamic.

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Old 04-25-2019, 09:40 PM   #4
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Jesus ... did you get stupid, too?

If you can't hold still long enough to read a book or commune with the aethers, simply watch "The Exorcist". Pay particular attention to the girl with the twisty head that turned green and whined like a bitch when she wasn't vomiting chunks and cursing priests in Latin.

I'm telling you, that sort of behavior puts a strain on the family dynamic.

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So we need to stand up and debate like a man, but whenever forced to defend your own phrases you immediately slink down to hackneyed attempts at humor instead of arguing the merits of what you wrote.

You may not have a leg to stand on, but at least you have your schtick.
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Old 04-25-2019, 09:52 PM   #5
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So we need to stand up and debate like a man, but whenever forced to defend your own phrases you immediately slink down to hackneyed attempts at humor instead of arguing the merits of what you wrote.

You may not have a leg to stand on, but at least you have your schtick.
Want to debate? Fine. Let's start with this ...

Against every sincere effort on my part to avoid arriving at a specific and potentially premature determination, I eventually came to the conclusion that you are a pompous, pretentious, self-righteous poopypants whose online persona exists to shield an intense, internal weakness of character.

Prove me wrong.

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Old 04-25-2019, 10:02 PM   #6
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Want to debate? Fine. Let's start with this ...

Against every sincere effort on my part to avoid arriving at a specific and potentially premature determination, I eventually came to the conclusion that you are a pompous, pretentious, self-righteous poopypants whose online persona exists to shield an intense, internal weakness of character.

Prove me wrong.

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I don't have to, because you're deflecting from debating the issue at hand, and an attempt to deflect is a sign that you have a losing argument.

You said you won't defend abusers, yet we all know that Hill beat his fiancee, and we know because he admitted it. Whether or not it was expunged doesn't change the fact that the abuse occurred.

You also went off on a half-cocked line of bullshit about what was on the audio despite not even knowing what was on the audio. He is directly accused of punching his son in the chest and hitting him with the belt. At no point does he deny that. He also tells his fiancee that she should be terrified of him too. Despite all of that, you still claim that this is a premature rush to judgment.

There's a difference between taking a measured approach to a nebulous situation and being too stubborn and arrogant to admit that you were mistaken and misinformed. Not being able to do that is the actual indicator of a lack of character, and I'm not the one displaying it in this exchange.

To quote a recent column, "Even after Howe’s extraordinary news conference, there was scant room for equivocation or rationalization about Hill unless they were bent on denial or creating smokescreens around the real issue."
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Old 04-25-2019, 10:29 PM   #7
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I don't have to, because you're deflecting from debating the issue at hand, and an attempt to deflect is a sign that you have a losing argument.

You said you won't defend abusers, yet we all know that Hill beat his fiancee, and we know because he admitted it. Whether or not it was expunged doesn't change the fact that the abuse occurred.

You also went off on a half-cocked line of bullshit about what was on the audio despite not even knowing what was on the audio. He is directly accused of punching his son in the chest and hitting him with the belt. At no point does he deny that. He also tells his fiancee that she should be terrified of him too. Despite all of that, you still claim that this is a premature rush to judgment.

There's a difference between taking a measured approach to a nebulous situation and being too stubborn and arrogant to admit that you were mistaken and misinformed. Not being able to do that is the actual indicator of a lack of character, and I'm not the one displaying it in this exchange.
No ... I choose the topic.

But just so we can set this other matter aside, I'll share these items with you ...

1. Prior to making the posts you commented on, I had not yet heard the entire KCTV story (the 6-minute one). I had only heard the (very different) short version included in the OP. I think a review of the thread demonstrates that. You know, necessitating that I spell it out for you. Data, data, data - I can't make bricks without straw. Had I heard the LP version of the tape in the beginning, I might have chosen ... that is, I can imagine myself choosing ... alternate words and phrases. (I can't guarantee that, though.)

2. Next, if you were to review my posts on the Tyreek subject since this story arose, you might (with help) eventually find a way to wrap your mind around the concept that my "Damien" name for Tyreek's kid has been a reference to a film about a possessed child. What you are harping about was a humorous (albiet admittedly subtle) reference to the many manipulations Damien employed in the films. As most thinking persons know, when people are experiencing heightened emotions, the "too soon" factor can come into play ... a factor that is very likely an element in this case. When that happens, usually an "oops" is in order.

In summary, I feel mentally dirty having to explain all this to you. It is most certainly a waste of time. I'm confident that many Planeteers likely already understand my posts, the source of the "Damien" name I've been using for over a month, as well as the "whiny little bitch" reference. The fact that you cannot indicates one of three things; A) You are truly an overtly emotional moron, B) You simply don't like me (which is perfectly understandable, by the way), or C) You don't like to be perceived by anyone as anything other than the image you are attempting to sell online. Apparently, you are also willing to fight in order to maintain that "image".

I won't hazard a guess as to which reason (or combination) is correct. However, for the purposes of continuing our discussion, I'll go with "C".

Now back to the topic I chose in my prior post; prove me wrong.

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Old 07-19-2019, 09:29 AM   #8
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I have. You're the one saying that you wouldn't defend an abuser while continually defending someone who has admitted to abusing a woman and who doesn't even deny abusing his child on audio.

Maybe you should actually listen to the audio, which you clearly hadn't, before continuing to expose yourself as even more of a fool.

But yeah, it's the kid who's a whiny bitch and you're just rationally evaluating all of this absent biases.


Holy f**** did Hamas get his ass hung in a sling on this one. Woah.
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Old 07-19-2019, 12:59 PM   #9
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