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Old 03-16-2022, 03:28 AM   #1
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It's a team game and Big Ben played like ass that playoff game.

Mayfield is absolutely average. Different positions but just like CEH, he's not bad, but he doesn't do anything special.
Sometimes you need the right environment to succeed. Brady was labeled average, but due to being in the right place with the right HC and people around him, he slowly succeeded and transformed into the GOAT. I’m not saying Baker can and will go the same way down, but Cleveland is shithole and Baker needs a clean start somewhere else. An average QB can still be a success in the NFL.
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Old 03-16-2022, 07:10 AM   #2
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If Baker was an average quarterback then he would not take the Browns to the playoffs and upset the Steelers in the playoffs
Whatever. He sucks and had a loaded roster. He's so good his best WR's are done with him. OBJ and Landry literally are not there because of him. He had a loaded roster and flopped on his face.

He's a back up QB that hasn't faced the fact that he's not that good.
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Old 03-16-2022, 08:49 AM   #3
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Whatever. He sucks and had a loaded roster. He's so good his best WR's are done with him. OBJ and Landry literally are not there because of him. He had a loaded roster and flopped on his face.

He's a back up QB that hasn't faced the fact that he's not that good.
He's been disappointing, but in context, they had injuries to OBJ, Chubb, Hunt, and Baker himself. Didn't the entire offense have COVID last year for several weeks? There wasn't much stability. He's an average QB but they've caught some bad breaks also.
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Old 03-15-2022, 10:23 PM   #4
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While he isn’t a world burner on the field, he gets a little boneheaded and a little too cocky for the “total package” idea. The kid has some moxie and plays his heart out.
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Old 03-16-2022, 03:17 AM   #5
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Old 03-16-2022, 01:35 PM   #6
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Old 03-16-2022, 01:49 PM   #7
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Baker over Josh Allen. He’s so good guys. Just soooo good with personnel
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Old 12-05-2022, 10:14 AM   #9
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Baker over Josh Allen. He’s so good guys. Just soooo good with personnel
Josh Allen would have crashed and burned in CLE as well.
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Old 12-05-2022, 11:03 AM   #10
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Josh Allen would have crashed and burned in CLE as well.
No way of knowing whether or not that's true, but we do know that Josh Allen actually had the talent to be the #1 overall pick.

Baker is probably the least talented QB to ever go #1.
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Old 12-05-2022, 11:16 AM   #11
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Baker is probably the least talented QB to ever go #1.
Nah, that's got to be Tim Couch.
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Old 12-05-2022, 03:37 PM   #12
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Josh Allen would have crashed and burned in CLE as well.
Probably would have, Mahomes too. Not provable but who was the Browns last decent QB? Testaverde? Like 30 guys have been the Cleveland QB since and to say they just all suck at their job is a statistical impossibility, it's the awful organization that is at fault.
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