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Old 11-28-2019, 11:28 PM   #1
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Old 11-29-2019, 12:15 AM   #2
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Old 11-29-2019, 06:41 AM   #3
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Old 11-29-2019, 01:10 PM   #4
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Old 11-29-2019, 07:52 AM   #5
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I'm not convinced Allen can make all the throws. Don't get me wrong, the guy can fire the ball and throw off platform. But he seems to zing every single ball he throws. Mahomes may throw the ball hard but he also throws a lot of balls with touch. I don't know that Allen can do that. He takes what he's given. What will he do when he's gotta put up points in a hurry? For lamar, he just can't throw the ball. For Josh allen, I think you could easily force mistakes under pressure.
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Old 11-29-2019, 07:55 AM   #6
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I'm not convinced Allen can make all the throws. Don't get me wrong, the guy can fire the ball and throw off platform. But he seems to zing every single ball he throws. Mahomes may throw the ball hard but he also throws a lot of balls with touch. I don't know that Allen can do that. He takes what he's given. What will he do when he's gotta put up points in a hurry? For lamar, he just can't throw the ball. For Josh allen, I think you could easily force mistakes under pressure.
He’s still learning , but his upside is tremendous.

I like that there’s a lot of good young QB talent for Mahomes to compete against in the AFC right now.
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Old 11-29-2019, 08:22 AM   #7
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He’s still learning , but his upside is tremendous.

I like that there’s a lot of good young QB talent for Mahomes to compete against in the AFC right now.
Yeah, I've said before that in a redraft, the browns should have taken allen. Then lamar. Then baker. In that draft.

I think he's being groomed as a game manager. Which might actually be good for his career because being thrown in an aerial offense like mahomes was might have turned him into a gunslinger.

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Old 11-29-2019, 08:27 AM   #8
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I'm not convinced Allen can make all the throws. Don't get me wrong, the guy can fire the ball and throw off platform. But he seems to zing every single ball he throws. Mahomes may throw the ball hard but he also throws a lot of balls with touch. I don't know that Allen can do that. He takes what he's given. What will he do when he's gotta put up points in a hurry? For lamar, he just can't throw the ball. For Josh allen, I think you could easily force mistakes under pressure.
Neither did Favre. Or Elway, for that matter.

But the game has changed, so who knows?

I think he's a tough kid, and he's playing well. If they coach him well and surround him with some more talent, I think they'll be in the mix every year.
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Old 11-29-2019, 10:28 AM   #9
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Neither did Favre. Or Elway, for that matter.

But the game has changed, so who knows?

I think he's a tough kid, and he's playing well. If they coach him well and surround him with some more talent, I think they'll be in the mix every year.
I actually wonder if he can be groomed into a big ben. Seem to be a lot of similarities especially with how their career started as a game manager. Not as hard to tackle as big ben, but moves a little better.
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Old 11-29-2019, 08:16 AM   #10
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Old 11-29-2019, 08:29 AM   #11
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In the young guns comparison, I don't think there's any real question it's Mahomes and then everyone else.

Jackson is the 'soup of the day', but that style of play has never lasted long. He's a problem, and he's improving the other aspects of his game. Still, we've beat him twice in the last 12 months.

Watson is pretty damned good. Allen is coming on. Interesting that Goff, Wenske, and Mayfield have all taken steps backward.

At any rate, I'm glad to see the changing of the guard. I'm so sick of the Manning(s)/Brady/Raperburger era.

Bring on the new blood.
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Old 11-29-2019, 09:11 AM   #13
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In the young guns comparison, I don't think there's any real question it's Mahomes and then everyone else.

Jackson is the 'soup of the day', but that style of play has never lasted long. He's a problem, and he's improving the other aspects of his game. Still, we've beat him twice in the last 12 months.

Watson is pretty damned good. Allen is coming on. Interesting that Goff, Wenske, and Mayfield have all taken steps backward.

At any rate, I'm glad to see the changing of the guard. I'm so sick of the Manning(s)/Brady/Raperburger era.

Bring on the new blood.
Amen....almost two decades of three QB's winning everything.
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