Kansas City Chiefs a 'perfect fit' for Clyde Edwards-Helaire

[BlackOp]

Even if the Chiefs had traded up to take Ruggs...I dont think he would have impacted the over-all offense like CEH will.

I really cant think of any player that would have... especially as a rookie.

Even if Murry or a top CB fell....on a game to game basis, CEH will affect the outcome more.

I'm usually pretty meh about rookies in year one....but Helaire is more talented than Hunt.

I'm fully expecting the offense to resemble the 2018 team....which averaged around 10 more points a game when Hunt was playing.

[JakeF]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

Even if the Chiefs had traded up to take Ruggs...I dont think he would have impacted the over-all offense like CEH will.

I really cant think of any player that would have... especially as a rookie.

Even if Murry or a top CB fell....on a game to game basis, CEH will affect the outcome more.

I'm usually pretty meh about rookies in year one....but Helaire is more talented than Hunt.

I'm fully expecting the offense to resemble the 2018 team....which averaged around 10 more points a game when Hunt was playing.

A great CB would have been of more value for the entire team than an RB.

Fournette/Damien and a great CB

is better than a

Great RB/Damien

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by JakeF

A great CB would have been of more value for the entire team than an RB.

Fournette/Damien and a great CB

is better than a

Great RB/Damien

No...Fournette isn't as naturally talented as Helaire.

You'll see when the games start....Reid getting this guy in space is going to be amazing.

I'm not sure what the fixation is with Founette...his own team doesn't even want to keep him....and that's after blowing the 4th over-all pick. He isn't the right style of RB for this offense anyway....

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by JakeF

A great CB would have been of more value for the entire team than an RB.

Fournette/Damien and a great CB

is better than a

Great RB/Damien

What great CB, though? That guy wasn’t there at 32.

Leonard Fournette is an oft-injured average RB and a bad fit in KC’s offense. No thanks.

I’ll take CEH and Sneed over any combination of Fournette and the CB available at 32.

[ForeverIowan]

Originally Posted by JakeF

A great CB would have been of more value for the entire team than an RB.

Fournette/Damien and a great CB

is better than a

Great RB/Damien

Weren't you the guy that claimed having a great running back on our roster made our offense worse because it takes the ball out of Mahomes' hands?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by JakeF

A great CB would have been of more value for the entire team than an RB.

Fournette/Damien and a great CB

is better than a

Great RB/Damien

**** you.

[Hoover]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

I've already heard the story about Veach sending the text to Mahomes. But for some reason just now when I read it, I actually got a little misty-eyed. Just a bit.

I think the way nfl.com guy wrote this story is what did it. It was the realization that just when I thought Mahomes couldn't be any more perfect of a QB, he's also got this bizarre ESP going with our goddamn GM.

So not only is he the most ridiculous examples of arm talent the NFL has ever seen, but he's gutsy and already one of the best locker room leaders at the QB position in the league. He's also well-built and not one of those stickboy QBs like RGIII or Teddy Bridgewater, so we know he's going to be durable provided he continues to find ways to protect himself. He's extremely smart and loves football more than anything, so he's not a dipshit like Jeff George or Jay Cutler. He's a midwest kid, so he just plain understands KC and its community better than other QBs. He has manners-- he's a nice guy, he treats absolutely EVERYBODY with respect. He avoids controversy and anything that distracts from football. He's made of stuff that takes curses and tells them to go **** themselves. Even when he's lying on a field with his kneecap on the side of his leg, it gets snapped back into place and the doctors say, "He was just born with this gumby-like skeletal system... what would be a season ending injury for most guys is going to be nothing in terms of recovery time for him."

But now we even drafted him into a setup that has Reid and Veach on staff? Think about the best QBs in the NFL right now and the relationship they have with their coaching staffs and front office. Tom Brady can't claim he's had support or that Belichick would give two shits what he thinks about who the team should draft. Rodgers is an asshole, but he's also getting ****ed by his own team right now. O'Brien is probably nice to Watson and a decent QB coach, but he's an idiot in charge who is ****ing over his QB's career. Russell Wilson's GM has basically tried to kill him these many years, and it isn't until recently that Russell finally rose above it and they're finally starting to invest in an OL and weapons, but only incrementally. I guess about the only example I can think of where a QB's relationship with his HC/GM comes close to being as symbiotic as Mahomes' is would be Sean Payton to Drew Brees.

Like, it would be fine if Veach/Reid were just good at their jobs while not being assholes to Mahomes. That's already better than 99% of the league. And it would be fine if Mahomes were just like, "Meh, they're in charge, let's just go play some football." But Christ... Mahomes and the people in charge even THINK alike! And this kid is under 25 years old!

Before April of 2017 I would have been happy with the franchise just TRYING to draft a first round QB. If he busted, I would have still supported the move. The fact that he hit was even better. But... all this stuff on this list of good Mahomes traits is PERFECTION. I would have been over the moon to learn that our new QB possessed only the smallest number of traits necessary to win a Super Bowl. But instead we got the best damn combination of traits with the best possible coaching staff and GM. And they're ALL on the same page.

Mahomes isn't done surprising us all yet, either. You think, "Okay, Mahomes, you honestly can't get any better." But he's going to do something else that makes him MORE perfect. I don't know what it is yet, but I can't wait to find out.

That's kind of why I slightly teared up a bit.

Great post, but I don't think Pat has ESP with Veach.

I think what we are seeing here is great communication between a star player and the GM. I guess what I'm saying is I doubt that was the first time Veach and Mahomes discussed draft prospects. Pat probably knew the 4-5 players that the Chiefs were going to target if they stayed at 32, so when the time to pick came and the Chiefs were not able to trade down, I'm sure CEH was pretty obvious to Pat.

The relationship is still to be celebrated. And the credit, I feel at least, belongs to Veach for having the ability to be comfortable with his star player to let him in. It means he has complete trust in Pat. Which is awesome, and while it seems obvious to us as we see it, trust me, I don't think Dorsey or Pioli would have this type of relationship with Mahomes.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Hoover

Great post, but I don't think Pat has ESP with Veach.

I think what we are seeing here is great communication between a star player and the GM. I guess what I'm saying is I doubt that was the first time Veach and Mahomes discussed draft prospects. Pat probably knew the 4-5 players that the Chiefs were going to target if they stayed at 32, so when the time to pick came and the Chiefs were not able to trade down, I'm sure CEH was pretty obvious to Pat.

The relationship is still to be celebrated. And the credit, I feel at least, belongs to Veach for having the ability to be comfortable with his star player to let him in. It means he has complete trust in Pat. Which is awesome, and while it seems obvious to us as we see it, trust me, I don't think Dorsey or Pioli would have this type of relationship with Mahomes.

Veach did a post first round interview that he said moving down wasn’t worth it (indicating they had offers to do so) and that CEH was the guy they targeted.

Andy Reid said CEH is a future HOF quality player.

[Hoover]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Veach did a post first round interview that he said moving down wasn’t worth it (indicating they had offers to do so) and that CEH was the guy they targeted.

Andy Reid said CEH is a future HOF quality player.

Am aware.

My point is that Andy and Veach probably kept Pat in the loop on offensive players they liked early that's all. I think it's a great pick. I just don't think Pat guessed on who the pick was, I think he knew based on how the draft fell.

[Ubeja Vontell]

I can see this....

Mahomes
CEH
Kelce
Hill
Hardman
Watkins

....being there with those 50's Rams,those Kurt Warner Rams those 60's Chargers, those Dan Fouts Chargers, when it comes to offensive fire power. Hell, Colts with HOFers to be Johnny U, Lenny Moore, Ray Berry, John Mackey.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

It's obvious CEH is a really smart kid. Very well-spoken and poised for someone that age. If/when he does what most of us think he's capable of doing in this offense, he could see a ton of endorsement money in addition to what the Chiefs pay him. He's got the "it" factor.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

Chiefs Endzone Hero before he even signs his rookie deal

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint

Chiefs Endzone Hero before he even signs his rookie deal

I see what you did there.

[suzzer99]

Lol at picking up a great CB at 32. Could it happen? Sure. Is it likely? No. Elite CBs need elite measurables. And those go high.

Lol Fournette also. Bleh.

[CervezaChill]

People might not realize it now but god forbid if Mahomes goes down for 5-6 games in the middle of a season, CEH might just be the difference between a 2-4 and 4-2 stretch in those games. All the back up has to do is hand him the ball. Hill, Hardman will always create space for a running back, no matter who the QB.