I ranked QBs entering the 2020 season

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

Wow. You really have fat, one foot out the door Ben over Watson?

People really tend to forget just how good fat, one foot out the door Ben was in 2018. I put him just one spot over Watson simply from looking at Big Ben's last three seasons as a starter. Here are his 2018 stats.

Passing Yards: 5,129 (1st - over Mahomes)
YPA: 7.6 (13th)
AYPA: 7.5 (14th)
YPG: 320.6 (1st)
Rating: 96.5 (15th)
QBR: 71.0 (3rd)
TD% 5.0 (17th)
Touchdowns: 34 (5th)
Sacks 24 (24th)

Compared to Watson's 2018..

Passing Yards: 4,165 (15th)
YPA: 8.2 (7th)
AYPA: 8.8 (8th)
YPG: 260.3 (18th)
Rating 103.1 (6th)
QBR: 60.7 (15th)
TD%: 5.1 (15th)
Touchdowns: 26 (12th)
Sacks 62 (1st)

I realize Big Rape's volume helps here, but the dude was still putting up prolific numbers and Watson has not come close to Big Ben's 2018 those total numbers or QBR in his career. At the end of the day I detest Ben the person, but I'm not ready to say he's done with the numbers he continued to put up through 2018. His duel against Patrick in 2018 is a particularly fun re-watch as well.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

People really tend to forget just how good fat, one foot out the door Ben was in 2018. I put him just one spot over Watson simply from looking at Big Ben's last three seasons as a starter. Here are his 2018 stats.

Passing Yards: 5,129 (1st - over Mahomes)
YPA: 7.6 (13th)
AYPA: 7.5 (14th)
YPG: 320.6 (1st)
Rating: 96.5 (15th)
QBR: 71.0 (3rd)
TD% 5.0 (17th)
Touchdowns: 34 (5th)
Sacks 24 (24th)

Compared to Watson's 2018..

Passing Yards: 4,165 (15th)
YPA: 8.2 (7th)
AYPA: 8.8 (8th)
YPG: 260.3 (18th)
Rating 103.1 (6th)
QBR: 60.7 (15th)
TD%: 5.1 (15th)
Touchdowns: 26 (12th)
Sacks 62 (1st)

I realize Big Rape's volume helps here, but the dude was still putting up prolific numbers and Watson has not come close to Big Ben's 2018 those total numbers or QBR in his career. At the end of the day I detest Ben the person, but I'm not ready to say he's done with the numbers he continued to put up through 2018. His duel against Patrick in 2018 is a particularly fun re-watch as well.

Do you, though? Nearly everything here says Watson is the more efficient passer.

Comparing solely their 2018 seasons, Watson had a higher completion percentage, YPA, and TD % while maintaining a significantly lower INT%.

He's a more productive passer and it's not even a debate who's more dangerous with their legs.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Do you, though? Nearly everything here says Watson is the more efficient passer.

Comparing solely their 2018 seasons, Watson had a higher completion percentage, YPA, and TD % while maintaining a significantly lower INT%.

He's a more productive passer and it's not even a debate who's more dangerous with their legs.

I might be too bullish on QBR (I do like how it factors in a QB's overall efficiency) and too critical over Watson's sack totals (his negative plays are just a killer in my book and ultimately gives Watson fewer opportunities to throw it downfield). For instance, Watson was to blame for 23 sacks in 2018, which was almost as many as Big Ben's total sacks in 2018. That is a critical amount of negative plays which ultimately takes away opportunities for Watson to pass and gives many more opportunities to his opponent through stalled drives and punts. Those two factors ultimately had me put Ben a slot over Watson - but I get the argument for placing Watson over Ben.