Anthony Lynn says Chargers are going back to Tyrod

[Mecca]

I thought Herbert played pretty well for a guy making his first start, at the same time he faced a defense missing half it's lineup that didn't prepare to face him at all so that plays in too.

[htismaqe]

The Chiefs likely lose that game if Taylor is playing. The dump offs and running game were working early.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The Chiefs likely lose that game if Taylor is playing. The dump offs and running game were working early.

This is kinda what happened w/ my real-time thoughts on Lynn's decision to punt as well.

On first viewing, I thought Herbert did a lot to keep them alive in that game. On a second watch, I think you're probably right. Once I watched a little more closely (as opposed to trying to wrangle children around a pool and barbecue) I was able to actually review what happened instead of just listening to Romo wax poetically on the greatness of Justin Herbert.

And I realized that Herbert wasn't nearly as great as the commentary made him seem. He easily took as much off the table as he brought to it. Again, in that 2nd half he was a significant part of the problem for LAC.

[tooge]

Racist!

[dirk digler]

I heard some crazy stat the other day about Tyrod and wish I could find it but IIRC when he starts as QB the team averages like high single digits or low double digits in scoring. Rex Ryan even said he can't score enough and he coached him.

Just compare his performance against the Bungles to Herbert's. Tyrod was 16-30 for 208 yds while Herbert was 22-33 for 311 yds 1TD and 1 INT.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I heard some crazy stat the other day about Tyrod and wish I could find it but IIRC when he starts as QB the team averages like high single digits or low double digits in scoring. Rex Ryan even said he can't score enough.

Just compare his performance against the Bungles to Herbert's. Tyrod was 16-30 for 208 yds while Herbert was 22-33 for 311 yds 1TD and 1 INT.

Tyrod with 1 win.

Herbert with 1 loss.

The margins for error in the NFL are razor thin. That team is built around the defense. You simply cannot turn the ball over and expect to win and that's exactly what Herbert did.

People tend to forget that Alex Smith, with a good defense, won a playoff game for the Chiefs for the first time in two decades.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Tyrod with 1 win.

Herbert with 1 loss.

The margins for error in the NFL are razor thin. That team is built around the defense. You simply cannot turn the ball over and expect to win and that's exactly what Herbert did.

People tend to forget that Alex Smith, with a good defense, won a playoff game for the Chiefs for the first time in two decades.

Thanks to the refs because the Bungles got screwed.

His record in Buffalo when he started they were 7-6, 7-8, 8-6 which probably is ok by Lynn because he is medicore as well.

His only playoff game in 2017 he was 17-37 for 134 yds and 1 INT. This is basically his career stat line.

[Mile High Mania]

If he's not ready in their eyes, I can understand why... but, I thought he looked pretty good vs KC considering the circumstances. Tyrod - I dunno, he's just not the real deal in my opinion.

I might lean towards rolling with the rookie.

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Drive up the price on Elway

[htismaqe]

DJ with two great posts back to back.

[ToxSocks]

Ya'll give Tyrod too much credit and not enough credit to Herbert.

There was a noticeable difference in competitiveness from the Chargers from week 1 to week 2. In week 2 they were chipy and energetic compared to week 1, and i can only assume it's because the QB gave them momentum.

Tyrod Taylor barely completed 50% of his passes against the Bengals and spent most of that game below 50%. They were anemic on offense, and when Taylor did take shots he took them in double coverage and damn near got Mike Williams block knocked off.

Tyrod Taylor is not the athlete that Herbert is and has never displayed the kind of speed and athleticism that Herbert displayed yesterday.

Tyrod Taylor isn't as accurate as Herbert is.

Taylor isn't playing with the kind of fire that Herbert displayed.

Herbert, aside from 1 crucial mistake that i bet he never makes again, played about as well as you could hope a rookie's 1st start could go, and it wasn't against the Bengals, it was against the defending SB champions.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Ya'll give Tyrod too much credit and not enough credit to Herbert.

There was a noticeable difference in competitiveness from the Chargers from week 1 to week 2. In week 2 they were chipy and energetic compared to week 1, and i can only assume it's because the QB gave them momentum.

Tyrod Taylor barely completed 50% of his passes against the Bengals and spent most of that game below 50%. They were anemic on offense, and when Taylor did take shots he took them in double coverage and damn near got Mike Williams block knocked off.

Tyrod Taylor is not the athlete that Herbert is and has never displayed the kind of speed and athleticism that Herbert displayed yesterday.

Tyrod Taylor isn't as accurate as Herbert is.

Taylor isn't playing with the kind of fire that Herbert displayed.

Herbert, aside from 1 crucial mistake that i bet he never makes again, played about as well as you could hope a rookie's 1st start could go, and it wasn't against the Bengals, it was against the defending SB champions.

That's what coaches to game managers always seem to overlook.

While your game manager won't throw that bone-headed pick. They will complete 55% of their passes and nab a wtf 10-13 loss against a 1-5 team. If Tyrod loses like that, how much you wanna bet he's spared the criticism from Lynn because of his "veteran status" or some bs logic right that. Heck, Tyrod was a missed 30 yard field goal away from a potential loss like that in Week 1.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Ya'll give Tyrod too much credit and not enough credit to Herbert.

There was a noticeable difference in competitiveness from the Chargers from week 1 to week 2. In week 2 they were chipy and energetic compared to week 1, and i can only assume it's because the QB gave them momentum.

Tyrod Taylor barely completed 50% of his passes against the Bengals and spent most of that game below 50%. They were anemic on offense, and when Taylor did take shots he took them in double coverage and damn near got Mike Williams block knocked off.

Tyrod Taylor is not the athlete that Herbert is and has never displayed the kind of speed and athleticism that Herbert displayed yesterday.

Tyrod Taylor isn't as accurate as Herbert is.

Taylor isn't playing with the kind of fire that Herbert displayed.

Herbert, aside from 1 crucial mistake that i bet he never makes again, played about as well as you could hope a rookie's 1st start could go, and it wasn't against the Bengals, it was against the defending SB champions.

They played last year's worst team in the league in Week 1. They played the defending SB champions and division rival in week 2.

Suggesting that their energy level was all because of Herbert is just freaking silly.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

They played last year's worst team in the league in Week 1. They played the defending SB champions and division rival in week 2.

Suggesting that their energy level was all because of Herbert is just freaking silly.

Pretending that the rest of their squad doesn't see the talent gap between Herbert and Taylor is what's silly to me. The ball was coming out live and the receivers were getting into the game, unlike week 1.

Having a guy in there that they know has the juice to get them the ball definitely energized them.

[ToxSocks]

AND

You're giving Lynn too much credit. Way too much credit.

He's not trying to play some long game, he's simply loyal to Taylor and he's an old school type coach. I told my nephew after the game that i wouldn't expect to see Herbert because:

1. Old school coaches don't believe in losing your job to injury, and Tyrod Taylor is 1-0 as the starter.

2. Lynn has been wanting to start Taylor since last season. He's a Tyrod Taylor guy. He was always going to give him enough rope to hang himself with no matter what the rookie did.

This has everything to do with loyalty and being stubborn.

If Taylor comes out and plays the way he did in week 1, but the Chargers are LOSING, you can bet your ass the rookie will be out there sooner than not.