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Old 01-25-2021, 01:18 PM   #1
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Nah, I definitely said "dumb" and shouldn't have. Of course, I've now had my coffee as well so we're good.



Take Mayfield in the 1st and have Rankin or Remmers play OT next year.

I think they're going to have to get a FA tackle somewhere, whether in actual FA or retaining one of our guys.

Niang better be ready to go after opting out. No excuses.
Rankin has been a disaster at LT in the past, that's why he's here. Remmers has done okay, and I absolutely think you have to bring him back, but he's long in the tooth and a stop-gap. I think you're right that Niang is a must-hit draftee at this point, but you're going to need another old vet on a one year deal type of guy to maybe hold the fort. It's going to have to be cheap, which means you really need to hedge that with some real draft resources.

Damnit. I really wanted a Jaelen Phillips type as I felt we were one more pass rusher away from a dominant defense. Of course, I kind of like that kid from Pitt maybe in the third.
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Old 01-25-2021, 01:22 PM   #2
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Rankin has been a disaster at LT in the past, that's why he's here. Remmers has done okay, and I absolutely think you have to bring him back, but he's long in the tooth and a stop-gap. I think you're right that Niang is a must-hit draftee at this point, but you're going to need another old vet on a one year deal type of guy to maybe hold the fort. It's going to have to be cheap, which means you really need to hedge that with some real draft resources.

Damnit. I really wanted a Jaelen Phillips type as I felt we were one more pass rusher away from a dominant defense. Of course, I kind of like that kid from Pitt maybe in the third.
That's just the thing - if Phillips is there and you really feel he's the missing piece, you take him. Period.

You don't change your draft board. If you have an OT on your board now and he's there, take him sure. But you don't move lesser guys up just because Fisher is hurt.

Stick to the draft board. Fill needs in free agency, even if they have to be cheap or stop gap moves. Eventually, that need will coincide with the strength of the draft board and you can make your move.
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Old 01-25-2021, 01:40 PM   #3
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That's just the thing - if Phillips is there and you really feel he's the missing piece, you take him. Period.

You don't change your draft board. If you have an OT on your board now and he's there, take him sure. But you don't move lesser guys up just because Fisher is hurt.

Stick to the draft board. Fill needs in free agency, even if they have to be cheap or stop gap moves. Eventually, that need will coincide with the strength of the draft board and you can make your move.
Agree.

There will be good OL available in the 2nd round. Maybe this means you use some of the Chiefs' comp pick draft capital to move up a bit in the second to make sure they can land their guy there.
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Old 01-25-2021, 01:41 PM   #4
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Agree.

There will be good OL available in the 2nd round. Maybe this means you use some of the Chiefs' comp pick draft capital to move up a bit in the second to make sure they can land their guy there.
OL in general, absolutely. but offensive TACKLE? I don't know.
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OL in general, absolutely. but offensive TACKLE? I don't know.
Dude, we got a really talented OT in last years class in the 3rd and could easily add another like him on day 2 this year (for example Walker Little from Stanford).

OT is the deepest position in this draft class. There will probably be 15 selected in the first 2 days.
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Dude, we got a really talented OT in last years class in the 3rd and could easily add another like him on day 2 this year (for example Walker Little from Stanford).

OT is the deepest position in this draft class. There will probably be 15 selected in the first 2 days.
Hey, if that's the case I'm all about it.
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Dude, we got a really talented OT in last years class in the 3rd and could easily add another like him on day 2 this year (for example Walker Little from Stanford).

OT is the deepest position in this draft class. There will probably be 15 selected in the first 2 days.

Yeah, this is a great OT class.

Guys like Abraham Lucas, Spencer Brown, Dillon Radunz, Walker Little would be sure-fire top 40 picks in a lot of drafts.

It’s why I’m good with DE/WR, still, at 32 (though I suspect the OT situation may work out there).
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Yeah, this is a great OT class.

Guys like Abraham Lucas, Spencer Brown, Dillon Radunz, Walker Little would be sure-fire top 40 picks in a lot of drafts.

It’s why I’m good with DE/WR, still, at 32 (though I suspect the OT situation may work out there).
I think the inevitable run on T’s in the 1st will make it very difficult to take one at 31/32 unless we’re reaching for one of those guys.
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That's just the thing - if Phillips is there and you really feel he's the missing piece, you take him. Period.

You don't change your draft board. If you have an OT on your board now and he's there, take him sure. But you don't move lesser guys up just because Fisher is hurt.

Stick to the draft board. Fill needs in free agency, even if they have to be cheap or stop gap moves. Eventually, that need will coincide with the strength of the draft board and you can make your move.
well I only mean that if you've got two players of relatively equal ranking that you take the guy that's a position of need, right? Not REACHING, but hey, these two guys are equal prospects, and we need a DE more than say...a WR. But NOW, we are in need of an OT or two really, and if the DE and OT are equal, you've really got to think about the OT as more of an area of need. And an area in which good veterans are very expensive.
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That's just the thing - if Phillips is there and you really feel he's the missing piece, you take him. Period.

You don't change your draft board. If you have an OT on your board now and he's there, take him sure. But you don't move lesser guys up just because Fisher is hurt.

Stick to the draft board. Fill needs in free agency, even if they have to be cheap or stop gap moves. Eventually, that need will coincide with the strength of the draft board and you can make your move.
It would come down, for me, at that point you trade up for someone. If there's a LT that you love that gets into the 20's, just trade up and grab him.
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Rankin has been a disaster at LT in the past, that's why he's here.
He was the Chiefs best left guard in 2019 by a wide margin and played his ass off against the Chargers in Week 17.

Veach got him for a reason and there's no way that Bill O'Brien's coaching staff got the best from him.
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