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Old 01-26-2021, 09:00 PM  
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CoQ10

Should I take it?

And I need a multivitamin to offset my frozen burrito diet. Recommendations?
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Old 01-27-2021, 11:49 AM   #16
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If someone put a gun to my head and said take three supplements or I'll blow your brains out, that would be one of the three. If you are on a statin AND are having muscle aches, it MAY help with the muscle aches. Otherwise its just a waste of time and money, just like the other 25 supplements you gullible lunatics take.
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Old 01-27-2021, 11:53 AM   #17
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Yes, If you're taking a statin definitely add the COQ10 to your diet.
The american heart association concluded CoQ10 is not helpful in Statin associated muscle symptoms.

There is little published evidence that shows benefit
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Old 01-27-2021, 12:58 PM   #18
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You should not be on statins unless your going to die because you won't take care of yourself.

My Dr. found out his father's Dr put him on them, he flew home and found his father a new Dr.
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Old 01-27-2021, 01:26 PM   #19
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You should not be on statins unless your going to die because you won't take care of yourself.

My Dr. found out his father's Dr put him on them, he flew home and found his father a new Dr.
Well, this doesn't make sense.
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Old 01-27-2021, 01:43 PM   #20
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When I first became a patient. he took Statins out of my regiment, added clean food, veggies., and vitamins.

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Old 01-27-2021, 01:47 PM   #21
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When I first became a patient. he took Statins out of my regiment, added clean food, veggies., and vitamins.

Added clean food and veggies?
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Old 01-27-2021, 01:50 PM   #22
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organic or just raw veggies, and more fresh, non farmed, fish

Organic meat here is too expensive at local butcher and probably not organic at Kroger.
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Old 01-27-2021, 01:53 PM   #23
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organic or just raw veggies, and more fresh, non farmed, fish
My point is, a healthy diet is obvious for most patients.
The majority of people know how to eat, but have barriers that make it difficult to do so.

Also, there are patient who are recommended to have a statin regardless of their LDL levels.
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Old 01-27-2021, 05:18 PM   #24
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I was told by my Dr that good food is expensive right up front.

Organific chicken isn't expensive when bought whole. I didn't buy organic beef yet organic pork is cheap in IN.

When I was losing weight, it seemed like it was expensive to buy any of the right food but found it not so bad if controlled portions.

After I was back to goal weight, I eat everything, organic or not, but I eat 75% veggies and fruit but never skimp on the vitamins
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Old 01-27-2021, 05:47 PM   #25
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The american heart association concluded CoQ10 is not helpful in Statin associated muscle symptoms.

There is little published evidence that shows benefit
Well then I'll have to tell my heart doctor he's a moron because the knowledge of Chiefsplanet is >Dr. Chu
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Old 01-27-2021, 05:57 PM   #26
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Well then I'll have to tell my heart doctor he's a moron because the knowledge of Chiefsplanet is >Dr. Chu
I'd be interested to hear what he has to say. Keep in mind, CoQ10 has data (mixed) for its use in patients with heart failure with a reduced ejection fraction. I see it more commonly recommended for this indication.

I'm specifically referring to its use to alleviate statin associated muscle symptoms

a simple Google search will show you a lot of literature (American college of cardiology, American heart association)
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Old 01-27-2021, 07:04 PM   #27
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I'd be interested to hear what he has to say. Keep in mind, CoQ10 has data (mixed) for its use in patients with heart failure with a reduced ejection fraction. I see it more commonly recommended for this indication.

I'm specifically referring to its use to alleviate statin associated muscle symptoms

a simple Google search will show you a lot of literature (American college of cardiology, American heart association)
Statins completely ****ed up my body, from my hip joints to the massive calf pain in the middle of the night to jacking up my liver enzymes to overall lethargy.

I tried every brand of CoQ10, Glucosamine & Chondroitin and every other supplement out there in order to relieve the pain, none of which worked.

I stopped taking it 10 years ago and would never advise anyone to take it, especially when like me, there is absolutely zero family history, going back at least 4 generations, of stroke or heart disease.
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Old 01-27-2021, 07:20 PM   #28
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Statins completely ****ed up my body, from my hip joints to the massive calf pain in the middle of the night to jacking up my liver enzymes to overall lethargy.

I tried every brand of CoQ10, Glucosamine & Chondroitin and every other supplement out there in order to relieve the pain, none of which worked.

I stopped taking it 10 years ago and would never advise anyone to take it, especially when like me, there is absolutely zero family history, going back at least 4 generations, of stroke or heart disease.

You had a bad experience, so you would not advise anyone to ever take it?

Millions of people take statins daily, and reduce their risk of heart attack and stroke.

Do some people have side effects and have to stop them? Absolutely.

Pretty much every diabetic is recommended to take a statin, regardless of their family history
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Statins completely ****ed up my body, from my hip joints to the massive calf pain in the middle of the night to jacking up my liver enzymes to overall lethargy.

I tried every brand of CoQ10, Glucosamine & Chondroitin and every other supplement out there in order to relieve the pain, none of which worked.

I stopped taking it 10 years ago and would never advise anyone to take it, especially when like me, there is absolutely zero family history, going back at least 4 generations, of stroke or heart disease.
Statins completely ****ed up my father when he was alive as well. I won't take them.
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