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Old 02-25-2021, 02:36 PM   #1
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Report: Russell Wilson “stormed out” after his ideas for fixing Seattle’s offense were dismissed
Posted by Mike Florio on February 25, 2021, 10:17 AM EST

Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson publicly said what he needed to say in the days after the Super Bowl. Someone has been speaking privately since then, and it has culminated in a lengthy item from TheAthletic.com that takes the closest look yet and the fractures and fissures in a relationship that currently seems to have a shelf life far closer to bread than bricks.

The article looks closely at the tension between Wilson and the coaching staff regarding Wilson’s desire to essentially be the offense, like Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City. That motivation drove the #LetRussCook phenomenon early in the season. But coach Pete Carroll freaked out after a turnover-fest against the Bills (four from Wilson) and another subpar performance against the Rams (three more Wilson turnovers).

After those seven turnovers from Wilson in two games, the Seahawks faced a short-week challenge against a Cardinals team that had a two-game winning streak against Seattle, and that was riding a wave of euphoria after the Hail Murray win over the Bills.

Here’s what happened next, via the story in TheAthletic.com: “Before the Thursday night game against Arizona, Wilson met with his coaches. For some time, Wilson has sought — even pushed — for influence within the organization regarding scheme and personnel. In the meeting, he outlined his own ideas for how to fix the offense. His suggestions were dismissed, multiple sources told The Athletic — another reminder to Wilson that the Seahawks did not see him the same way he saw himself, as a player who had earned greater control over his situation, his future, his legacy. He stormed out of the room.”

It takes no magnifying glass or other Sherlockian investigative tools to conclude that this nugget comes from the Seahawks, who finally are pushing back against the notion that Wilson’s skillset justifies more power and control.

Consider this quote in the story, from an unnamed source who surely isn’t connected to Wilson: “He’s finally catching heat. That’s the main reason for all of this. . . . People are talking and holding him accountable because he’s one of the highest-paid quarterbacks, he says he wants to be the greatest, so now people are holding him to that standard. . . . It’s a PR game. He’s trying to protect himself.”

It’s unclear whether the unnamed source is a Seahawks source. If it is, it suggests that the Seahawks should indeed try to finagle a major trade package from a team who views Wilson the way Wilson views Wilson. If it is, it also suggests that the Seahawks should be more discreet about their true feelings, since if that’s how they regard Wilson then maybe a huge trade offer isn’t justified.

That’s really what this comes down to. If the Seahawks view Wilson as an all-time great, they should treat him that way. If they don’t, they should trade him to a team that does, since that team would put together a trade offer that the Seahawks would regard as one they can’t refuse.

Wilson surely sees himself as someone who has the potential to crack the top five in league history. And he has every right to think that. The current problem between player and team seems to be that the Seahawks don’t share that assessment and/or they aren’t willing to transform their overall strategy to let Wilson create the kind of numbers and outcomes that will prove that Wilson belongs in the pantheon of the best pro football quarterbacks in history. Given Wilson’s current objectives for his career, it’s not a question of if but when the two sides go their separate ways.
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Old 02-25-2021, 02:41 PM   #2
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Old 02-25-2021, 02:42 PM   #3
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The Mahomes effect. Mahomes has turned the expectations of these QB's on its head.
QB's want to have fun like Mahomes.
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Old 02-25-2021, 03:01 PM   #5
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I'd fire Pete Carrol before I would trade Wilson
Without a doubt. The Seahawks would have no trouble bringing in a top name with an offensive focus to coach that team.
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Is the ownership so hands off that they can't see the pitiful way Pace is general managing the Bears? His job is to ensure the coaches have the pieces to ensure success, and so far he hasn't come close to hitting that. On the offensive side, anyway.
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Is the ownership so hands off that they can't see the pitiful way Pace is general managing the Bears? His job is to ensure the coaches have the pieces to ensure success, and so far he hasn't come close to hitting that. On the offensive side, anyway.
Yeah, the McCaskey's have been hands-off, terrible owners for decades.

The Lions are garbage, the Bears are garbage and for the most part, the Vikings are garbage, which always makes the Packers look better than their record.
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Yeah if I was the Bears I'd be all over that. They'd be a legit force.

That said, Wilson has the perfect setup now. They've put him in an offense with guys who are great at running verticals, fades, etc. so he can just chuck it down the field. He's not going to have Lockett and DK Metcalf in these other places. Some other very good WRs like Amari Cooper sure, but that QB/WR group Seattle has is perfect for each other.
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Yeah if I was the Bears I'd be all over that. They'd be a legit force.

That said, Wilson has the perfect setup now. They've put him in an offense with guys who are great at running verticals, fades, etc. so he can just chuck it down the field. He's not going to have Lockett and DK Metcalf in these other places. Some other very good WRs like Amari Cooper sure, but that QB/WR group Seattle has is perfect for each other.
Will be interesting to see if a new OC does him good. Seattle just hired a pretty intriguing OC. Russell Wilson is a much more talented version of Alex Smith. Is that just who he is, or is that Schottenheimer pulling him down? I still wonder if it's both. People keep talking about his OL sucking but like Alex I think a lot of that is from holding on to the ball because he doesn't have the aggressiveness of mahomes.

Which also begs the question... Considering he's one of the most slippery qbs out there, how good will he still be when he loses his legs. He can make all the throws. But is he willing to be aggressive enough to try them?
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Will be interesting to see if a new OC does him good. Seattle just hired a pretty intriguing OC. Russell Wilson is a much more talented version of Alex Smith. Is that just who he is, or is that Schottenheimer pulling him down? I still wonder if it's both. People keep talking about his OL sucking but like Alex I think a lot of that is from holding on to the ball because he doesn't have the aggressiveness of mahomes.

Which also begs the question... Considering he's one of the most slippery qbs out there, how good will he still be when he loses his legs. He can make all the throws. But is he willing to be aggressive enough to try them?
Ok.

You wanna expand on this one some more? I don't hear that comparison too much.
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Ok.

You wanna expand on this one some more? I don't hear that comparison too much.
yeah other than being athletic QB's I don't see that at all.

Wilson is MUCH less risk averse and is more than willing to chuck it downfield.

Not nearly the same type of player.
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He should add Miami to his list....and they should jump all over that. His preferred teams have to strip themselves to get him if this happens.
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