Chiefs Veach: Fisher Projected as a Mid-August Return - Page 3

Chiefshrink · 03-01-2021, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

You don't need 2 garages for just one car, either.

I think we definitely do because our Lamborghini is Mahomes

But I get your point.

Jerok · 03-01-2021, 05:45 PM

If we really get Schwartz and Fisher back and Tardiff returns and Niang is a guard for this year, would be draft a center? Or maybe draft another guard to tackle conversion like we are planning with Niang?

Or just keep with our strategy of Olinement on day 3... man I cant wait for the draft.

MahomesMagic · 03-01-2021, 05:58 PM

If we really had both tackles we could just add more firepower as well as OL and DL depth.

Then again, we were already listed as the Super Bowl favorites for next year before this news.

Chief Northman · 03-01-2021, 07:04 PM

Protect the investment. **** the injury projections. Get younger at the tackle position and plan for worst-case scenario. If they don’t, they learned nothing from the Superbowl beatdown.

Chiefshrink · 03-01-2021, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Protect the investment. **** the injury projections. Get younger at the tackle position and plan for worst-case scenario. If they don’t, they learned nothing from the Superbowl beatdown.

Delano · 03-01-2021, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Protect the investment. **** the injury projections. Get younger at the tackle position and plan for worst-case scenario. If they don’t, they learned nothing from the Superbowl beatdown.

What do you think Lucas Niang is? The Chiefs are years ahead of you. They couldn’t project Covid.

htismaqe · 03-01-2021, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Protect the investment. **** the injury projections. Get younger at the tackle position and plan for worst-case scenario. If they don’t, they learned nothing from the Superbowl beatdown.

Pure unadulterated panic.

Not a way to run a football team at all.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-01-2021, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Pure unadulterated panic.

Welcome to Chiefsplanet!

Chief Northman · 03-02-2021, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Pure unadulterated panic.

Not a way to run a football team at all.

Panic?

A dislocated knee, turf toe and debateable concussion are already on Patrick’s body mileage.

- Who has guaranteed Fisher returns to form and when?
- Great that Schwartz looks to be back, but for how long? He was regressing pre-injury and backs are finicky.
- Niang won’t have played football in almost two calendar years. You think he just slides in and will be great?
- LDT: overrated and overpaid. A year removed from football.
- Reiter likely walks in FA.

It’s not panic, it is reality. The Chiefs have to build the line back up again for both the short term and the future.

htismaqe · 03-02-2021, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Panic?

A dislocated knee, turf toe and debateable concussion are already on Patrick’s body mileage.

Dislocated knee: QB sneak, not related to o-line play
Concusion/stun: Designed run, not related to o-line play

Sorry, you're going to have to do better than his turf toe injury to justify throwing pretty much every available resource we have at a potentially very small problem.

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman

- Who has guaranteed Fisher returns to form and when?
- Great that Schwartz looks to be back, but for how long? He was regressing pre-injury and backs are finicky.
- Niang won’t have played football in almost two calendar years. You think he just slides in and will be great?
- LDT: overrated and overpaid. A year removed from football.
- Reiter likely walks in FA.

- nobody, and until they do or don't, there's no need to panic and replace him with anybody we can get our hands on.
- If they say he'll be ready and he says he'll be ready, who are you to say he won't be?
- So since he's never played, we should replace him with someone who's never played? I NEVER said he'd be great. In fact, I never said Niang would be ANYTHING. But until he actually plays, you can't either. He's an unknown, just like EVERY ONE of these guys people want to draft because we need to "fix the line".
- LDT is certainly not overpaid compared to the market. As for overrated, that's fine, but then again, it seems you want to replace EVERYONE, which is just absolutely ****ing laughable.
- Nope, not likely. We have no idea.

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman

It’s not panic, it is reality. The Chiefs have to build the line back up again for both the short term and the future.

Not based in reality at all. At all.

They said Fisher and Schwartz will be back. You obviously have trust issues with a team and front office that won us a Super Bowl - the first one in FIFTY YEARS - 2 years ago and has us right back again this past season. That's the real problem here, not the offensive line.

Sofa King · 03-02-2021, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Panic?

A dislocated knee, turf toe and debateable concussion are already on Patrick’s body mileage.

- Who has guaranteed Fisher returns to form and when?
- Great that Schwartz looks to be back, but for how long? He was regressing pre-injury and backs are finicky.
- Niang won’t have played football in almost two calendar years. You think he just slides in and will be great?
- LDT: overrated and overpaid. A year removed from football.
- Reiter likely walks in FA.

It’s not panic, it is reality. The Chiefs have to build the line back up again for both the short term and the future.

If we look at the situation realistically, this is actually pretty accurate. We need to pump as much into the O-line as we can.

htismaqe · 03-02-2021, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King

If we look at the situation realistically, this is actually pretty accurate. We need to pump as much into the O-line as we can.

It's not realistic at all.

He's essentially saying everyone needs replaced.

How in the ****ing ****ety **** **** is that realistic?

dlphg9 · 03-01-2021, 08:31 PM

Why doesn't anyone think Fisher will be healthy? Do you all remember Derrick Johnson? That dude ruptured his achilles in December and was back starting opening day and played 100% of the defensive snaps week 1 and 2 as a 35 year old. Fisher will only be 30 and probably heal faster than a 35 year old.

dlphg9 · 03-01-2021, 08:45 PM

Hell Terrell Suggs tore one of his in 2012 and ruptured the other one a few years later in 2015. In 2012 he tore it in April and played just 5 months later and since then the advancements in the surgery and recovery have improved tremendously

staylor26 · 03-01-2021, 09:13 PM

If the SB OL is what you’re worried about, why would you want to replace Fisher AND Schwartz in one offseason?

If anything, you should want to bring them back and add depth (some of which is already coming via opt outs).

If we try to replace both T’s in one offseason, there’s a good possibility that our depth is even worse in 2021.

03-01-2021, 05:45 PM	#2
Jerok Veteran Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $3544092	If we really get Schwartz and Fisher back and Tardiff returns and Niang is a guard for this year, would be draft a center? Or maybe draft another guard to tackle conversion like we are planning with Niang? Or just keep with our strategy of Olinement on day 3... man I cant wait for the draft.
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MahomesMagic Generational Player Join Date: May 2017 Location: Honolulu Casino cash: $300400	If we really had both tackles we could just add more firepower as well as OL and DL depth. Then again, we were already listed as the Super Bowl favorites for next year before this news.
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Chief Northman MVP Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Canada Casino cash: $6790890	Protect the investment. **** the injury projections. Get younger at the tackle position and plan for worst-case scenario. If they don’t, they learned nothing from the Superbowl beatdown.
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03-01-2021, 08:31 PM	#13
dlphg9 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $-1680347	Why doesn't anyone think Fisher will be healthy? Do you all remember Derrick Johnson? That dude ruptured his achilles in December and was back starting opening day and played 100% of the defensive snaps week 1 and 2 as a 35 year old. Fisher will only be 30 and probably heal faster than a 35 year old.
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03-01-2021, 08:45 PM	#14
dlphg9 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $-1680347	Hell Terrell Suggs tore one of his in 2012 and ruptured the other one a few years later in 2015. In 2012 he tore it in April and played just 5 months later and since then the advancements in the surgery and recovery have improved tremendously
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03-01-2021, 09:13 PM	#15
staylor26 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $-2160960	If the SB OL is what you’re worried about, why would you want to replace Fisher AND Schwartz in one offseason? If anything, you should want to bring them back and add depth (some of which is already coming via opt outs). If we try to replace both T’s in one offseason, there’s a good possibility that our depth is even worse in 2021.
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