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Old 12-03-2021, 03:12 PM   #1
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Old 12-03-2021, 03:51 PM   #2
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At what point in that process was the puck curving in mid-air, looking like its gonna brain you, only for it to land in the strike zone and all your teammates laughing cause you cant hit a curve ball?

Dont even get me started on sliders.

Baseball will always be the premier skill sport and I wont have this hockey talk.

People are endlessly amazed by deflected goals in hockey, because of how much skill it must take to get the stick on the puck in mid-air. Guess what? That's every pitch in baseball.
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Old 12-03-2021, 04:09 PM   #3
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At what point in that process was the puck curving in mid-air, looking like its gonna brain you, only for it to land in the strike zone and all your teammates laughing cause you cant hit a curve ball?

Dont even get me started on sliders.

Baseball will always be the premier skill sport and I wont have this hockey talk.

People are endlessly amazed by deflected goals in hockey, because of how much skill it must take to get the stick on the puck in mid-air. Guess what? That's every pitch in baseball.
Most hockey fans aren't all that amazed by deflections. They're just deflections and very few guys have the ability to actually control them (merely getting them on net is good enough).

As you're swinging at this ball, are you on ice-skates while moving at high speeds with large men trying to hit you while also hooking at you with sticks of their own? And again, do you have to keep a frozen hunk of rubber stuck to a stick as though it is on a string while all this is going on?

I mean you're really going to cite the fear factor of a curveball when trying to contrast it to hockey? Where guys actively put themselves in the path of pucks traveling at 100 mph?
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Old 12-03-2021, 04:15 PM   #4
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Yes, I will cite the fear of a curveball cause I've had it happen when it doesn't curve and maintains its trajectory. One detached retina and a gaggle of wailing mothers later, a hockey player blocking a shot does not impress me.
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Old 12-03-2021, 04:44 PM   #5
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Yes, I will cite the fear of a curveball cause I've had it happen when it doesn't curve and maintains its trajectory. One detached retina and a gaggle of wailing mothers later, a hockey player blocking a shot does not impress me.
Bryan Berard scoffs at a mere detached retina.

Shit, I can name 3 NHL players just off the top of my head that have had that or worse happen to them. Berard, MacInnis and Okposo.

Chris Pronger got hit in the chest with a puck and his heart stopped. This is a non-starter, man.
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Old 12-03-2021, 04:27 PM   #6
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Blocking a shot - no worries:



Just love taps out there trying to gain possession...

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Old 12-03-2021, 04:56 PM   #8
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I'm well aware of the dangers of skating near the boards. Are you aware of Ray Chapman?

Edited to add: I watched that full Chris Pronger video and that was rough. I'm glad he lived cause it looked dicey there. You made your point. Hockey is for tough guys, baseball is for skilled guys.
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Old 12-03-2021, 05:14 PM   #9
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I will give you credit for one thing, DJ. You didnt bring up the Todd Bertuzzi incident. You could have, and it would have sent me into a frenzy, but you showed restraint.
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Old 12-03-2021, 05:49 PM   #10
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I will give you credit for one thing, DJ. You didnt bring up the Todd Bertuzzi incident. You could have, and it would have sent me into a frenzy, but you showed restraint.
Nah - Bertuzzi isn’t hockey anymore than Roger Clemens going roid ragey and throwing a bat at Piazza is baseball. That’s just a shithead being a shithead.

Bertuzzi can eat all the dicks.
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Old 12-03-2021, 06:09 PM   #11
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Nah - Bertuzzi isn’t hockey anymore than Roger Clemens going roid ragey and throwing a bat at Piazza is baseball. That’s just a shithead being a shithead.

Bertuzzi can eat all the dicks.
It's on now. Steve moore shouldn't have thrown an illicit elbow into Markus Naslund's head, concussing him and ushering in paramedics.

But that done, he could have turned around and fought Bertuzzi with gloves off like a man. But he ducked and ran.

Nobody wanted anyone in a wheelchair, Bertuzzi included. But theres a code in the league and Steve Moore flaunted it.
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It's on now. Steve moore shouldn't have thrown an illicit elbow into Markus Naslund's head, concussing him and ushering in paramedics.

But that done, he could have turned around and fought Bertuzzi with gloves off like a man. But he ducked and ran.

Nobody wanted anyone in a wheelchair, Bertuzzi included. But theres a code in the league and Steve Moore flaunted it.
Moore was your average 4th line pest, no more, no less. He wasn’t even a Tom Wilson level goon. Just a fringe player who was going to bounce up amd down for a few years before vanishing. Leagues had 100s just like him.

Where in ‘the code’ is it okay to grab him from behind and give him a flying rabbit punch to the back of the dome and then drive him face first into the ice.

It was a bitch move by Bertuzzi. Criminal? No - but I couldn’t stand the guy before he did that because he loved toeing that line. But when he drove his forearm into the Moore’s neck into the ice, he very clearly crossed it.
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Moore was your average 4th line pest, no more, no less. He wasn’t even a Tom Wilson level goon. Just a fringe player who was going to bounce up amd down for a few years before vanishing. Leagues had 100s just like him.

Where in ‘the code’ is it okay to grab him from behind and give him a flying rabbit punch to the back of the dome and then drive him face first into the ice.

It was a bitch move by Bertuzzi. Criminal? No - but I couldn’t stand the guy before he did that because he loved toeing that line. But when he drove his forearm into the Moore’s neck into the ice, he very clearly crossed it.
I'll tell you exactly the moment Steve Moore went wrong when Todd challenged him to a fight. You gotta fight when that happens man. You cant run away. Moore tried to run away and the bloody aftermath ensued.

It never needed to happen.
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And if Cecil Fielder and Tony Gwynn can be great at it while Babe Ruth’s fast ass set the standard for decades, just how skilled can it be?
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Hey DJ, you follow the sport at all? There's a guy playing for Detroit, first name Tyler, middle name controversy, last name....you guessed it. Bertuzzi.
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